Did Eminem really Kill Jay-Z on "Renegade" or was that overstated?

[BlackMajik]

What say u?

 

[atlbound]

Hov was coastin, Em was doin alot...he was excited being on the track with the gawd

 

[kingdizzy01]

nas won.

 

[L. Deezy]

Lets not try to reverse history...

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

I don't think he 'murdered' him but he surely outshined him. That is probably Eminem's best verse, ever.

 

[Leti Cook]

Eminem was better but nikkas act like Jay phoned it in or some shyt. He went in. Em's flow was just meaning

 

[Zero]

Eminem was better but nikkas act like Jay phoned it in or some shyt. He went in. Em's flow was just meaning

This

 

[ROFLOCO]

This was back when Em was on a legendary career trajectory -- before he face planted and fell the fukk off hard.

 

[DopeMan]

All I remember is that no one was saying that Eminem killed Jay on Renegade until Ether dropped.

Since then these Nas dikriders just went with the flow and now they act like that they felt the same way since day 1

Personally, I preferred Jay on that track but I can see why someone would be more inclined towards Eminem.

But this doesnt mean he murdered Jay on that track and vice versa.

 

[BlackMajik]

Eminem was better but nikkas act like Jay phoned it in or some shyt. He went in. Em's flow was just meaning

I gotta say Eminem did flow on his ass and I don't even like Eminem

 

[Trey0'5Blue2Gz]

Em murdered this

I never understood why people neglect to give him that credit

Jay did his thing no doubt but Em stole the show

 

[Microfracture]

Been saying it for a while....if you let the featured artist produce your song and then rap on it, 9/10 times you're gonna get washed.

 

[Wacky D]

i didnt even really like eminem's verse. and i was cool with eminem back then.

regardless of whoever you think came nicer, the idea of eminem murking him on the track was indeed overstated for multiple obvious reasons(his race & Ether).

ive seen jay get clearly outshined on tracks and nobody made a big deal about it. beans rapped circles around jay on the regular for like 2 years str8 and he didnt get a trophy, cookie or nothin.

 

[BlackMajik]

Rakim did get Jay on the watcher 2 imo



And his verse wasn't even long

 

[DopeMan]

Rakim did get Jay on the watcher 2 imo



And his verse wasn't even long

Jay absolutely bodied this shyt