Diddy Former Body Guard On Puff: You Would Of Died Just Like Your Father...

[razassin]

Nas said:

''I don't like the way P. Diddy did Shyne, with different lawyers
Why it's mentioned in my rhymes? fukk it, it's just an intro
Hate it or love it, like it, bump it or dump it...

Y'all just wanna deal with drama
Talk about nikkas who got things, y'all ready to kill his mama
Everything you into is underworld related
You sell your man out, not even your girl is sacred
You don't trust a soul, hold up, you moldin' soldiers
To pull guns quick and always look behind the shoulder
Think of how many dudes died tryin' to be down with you
Everybody's under six feet of ground but you
Still standin', still roamin' through the streets, that's real
You a survivor, knowing all the beef is ill
You got a bunch of thugs with you even now that's ready
Trustin' your judgment, quick to put it down, they deadly
The hood love you, but behind your back they pray for the day
A bullet hit your heart and ambulances take you away
That ain't love, it's hate
Think of all the mothers at wakes
Whose sons you killed, and you ain't got a cut on your face?
...''

 

[King Karim]

alot of stuff in this thread is being taken from Greg's documentary which is an amazing watch BTW, but everything in there isn't accurate.

It's odd that Greg Kading had Keffe D's statement on tape but not Suge's girl who helped him plan the hit!?

and in 96....Puffy did not have money like that, not where he could put up 1miilion dollars of liquid cash, this is 96 keep in mind, Puffy didn't start getting big boy money till after Biggie was killed.......and Puffy had plenty of GOONS at his disposal...why would he overpay for a hit?


now follow me here.........if these Crips haven't been paid 1 cent for putting there lives on the line shooting Pac and trying to kill Suge in one of the most visible places in America.......why in the hell would they come ask Puffy for more work in LA and Puffy never paid for the 1st hit? you really think Compton Crips are just a nice network of guys who don't mind not getting paid their money for putting in work?


They was at the Vibe party looking to get their money....they stepped to Biggie on some "wzup" shyt, then they stepped to Puffy on some "hey Breh, we need to get that from you TONIGHT"

Puffy in the nicest most political way he could blew them off on some "not now, not right here, the spot is hot, i don't want people to see me hollering at y'all, call my mans"


The Crips said to themselves "aiight that's it, we gave him a chance" then they left and started plotting......Nobody finds it ODD that both guys were murdered identical to each other?, and after the shootings both drivers made quick rights as their escape routes.....Both murders had a "bait car"


think about what you know already....

 

[spliz]

both you are wrong..

i saw Puff, Mase, Lil Kim, etc perform live at Magic Johnsons last show..

Well that's that then. Being that u were on the inside at the time I believe u over any of these nikkas.

 

[Bigsuk]

It has nothing to do with a new sense of fear; it wasn't the first time Diddy was around death. His homie killed Suge's man in ATL. The cali thing was just Puff being cocky. He learned from his mistake and avoided Cali; that's how you're supposed to move.

Puff is a snake : he created trouble, Big got killed, he ran for his life and became a superstar.

nikka what you talking about keffe dee said puffy was scared for his life ... He only felt safe wen his secruity and the sscc were present .... Reguardless if the bullets were meant for puffy or not ... Puffy knows why biggie was slumped over the dashboard with his eyesrolling to the back ov his head ... It scared the shyt out ov puffy hence why he was on the next flight home to newyork and left junior mafia nikkas to stay with bigs body at hosptal , puffy must have thought the shooter was comin back for him .....it was cockyness, ignorance and been him scared to death ov suge and the end result with his biggest money maker made him change ... And still these days puffy still hasnt got the bottle to say anything about suge .... I mean litrally he took biggie down a dangerous path all cause he couldnt stand the fact the west wasnt feeling them .. Soul train awards should have been a clear warning ....

 

[King Karim]

nikka what you talking about keffe dee said puffy was scared for his life ... He only felt safe wen his secruity and the sscc were present .... Reguardless if the bullets were meant for puffy or not ... Puffy knows why biggie was slumped over the dashboard with his eyesrolling to the back ov his head ... It scared the shyt out ov puffy hence why he was on the next flight home to newyork and left junior mafia nikkas to stay with bigs body at hosptal , puffy must have thought the shooter was comin back for him .....it was cockness, ignorance and been him scared to death ov suge and the end result with his biggesr money maker made him change ... And still these days puffy still hasnt got the bottle to say anything about suge .... I mean litrally he took biggie down a dangerous path all cause he couldnt stand the fact the west wasnt feeling them .. Soul train awards should have been a clear warning ....

Man.....im kinda like dude....of course Keefe gon say that, but I'm not sure how much I believe Puffy was "scared" of Suge...I mean yea...I'm sure he feared hand to hand combat with Suge but so did 94% of all Men during that time...Even when Pac and Suge were running LA....Puffy was still coming out there....in fact they were in LA more than Pac and Suge was in NYC....Men who are scared don't and won't move like that.

 

[Bigsuk]

alot of stuff in this thread is being taken from Greg's documentary which is an amazing watch BTW, but everything in there isn't accurate.

It's odd that Greg Kading had Keffe D's statement on tape but not Suge's girl who helped him plan the hit!?

and in 96....Puffy did not have money like that, not where he could put up 1miilion dollars of liquid cash, this is 96 keep in mind, Puffy didn't start getting big boy money till after Biggie was killed.......and Puffy had plenty of GOONS at his disposal...why would he overpay for a hit?


not follow me here.........if these Crips haven't been paid 1 cent for putting there lives on the line shooting Pac and trying to kill Suge in one of the most visible places in America.......why in the hell would they come ask Puffy for more work in LA and Puffy never paid for the 1st hit? you really think Compton Crips are just a nice network of guys who don't mind not getting paid their money for putting in work?


They was at the Vibe party looking to get their money....they stepped to Biggie on some "wzup" shyt, then they stepped to Puffy on some "hey Breh, we need to get that from you TONIGHT"

Puffy in the nicest most political way he could blew them off on some "not now, not right here, the spot is hot, i don't want people to see me hollering at y'all, call my mans"


The Crips said to themselves "aiight that's it, we gave him a chance" then they left and started plotting......Nobody finds it ODD that both guys were murdered identical to each other?, and after the shootings both drivers made quick rights as their escape routes.....Both murders had a "bait car"


think about what you know already....

King ..... Kill that shyt .... The southside compton crips did not have anything to do with biggies murder ....... If you know a litttle something and know how connected zip was him been biggies son godfather and really close to puffy,faith, big ... Had southside crips killed biggie they would have a war on they hands with zip but they didnt because they had nothing to do with it ...... So king your telling me deathrow let big jake and tupac both get killed by badboy afflaites and deathrow did nothing about it ??? Come on use your head ... Biggie was killed by bloods ... Reguardless if it was poochie or not it was deffo someone connnected to deathrow ...

 

[King Karim]

King ..... Kill that shyt .... The southside compton crips did not have anything to do with biggies murder ....... If you know a litttle something and know how connected zip was him been biggies son godfather and really close to puffy,faith, big ... Had southside crips killed biggie they would have a war on they hands with zip but they didnt because they had nothing to do with it ...... So king your telling me deathrow let big jake and tupac both get killed by badboy afflaites and deathrow did nothing about it ??? Come on use your head ... Biggie was killed by bloods ... Reguardless if it was poochie or not it was deffo someone connnected to deathrow ...

SSCC was one of the biggest Crip gangs in the world at the time....they aint give a damn about going to war with some cat from NYC

They had just merked Pac and had been beefing with Suge and MOB for awhile, so some out of towner would be small things to a giant for them California niccaz....I know how deep Zip was in the streets of NEW YORK, but that don't translate to being a big dawg in Cali.


I aint saying that DR did nothing about it, but again...u beefing with SSCC.....shyt man....when the war popped off them MOB cats was getting lit up left and right by SSCC......hell......Orlando was killed by a CRIP years later, that just further proves my point...the man who popped Pac, bragged about popping Pac lived for years without being touched by the MOB...IJS

 

[Bigsuk]

Man.....im kinda like dude....of course Keefe gon say that, but I'm not sure how much I believe Puffy was "scared" of Suge...I mean yea...I'm sure he feared hand to hand combat with Suge but so did 94% of all Men during that time...Even when Pac and Suge were running LA....Puffy was still coming out there....in fact they were in LA more than Pac and Suge was in NYC....Men who are scared don't and won't move like that.

They will if they have secruity and have a compton crip gang just as dangerous as the gang backing there rivals ..... Southside compton crips in the tupac era was easily the most dangerous crip gang from compton ... Just like the 96 soul train awards why you think deathrow didnt rush badboy like they said they would ... Cause the sscc was there to

 

[King Karim]

They will if they have secruity and have a compton crip gang just as dangerous as the gang backing there rivals ..... Southside compton crips in the tupac era was easily the most dangerous crip gang from compton ... Just like the 96 soul train awards why you think deathrow didnt rush badboy like they said they would ... Cause the sscc was there to

Thats some of my point.....Puffy wasn't scared...he had GOONS at his disposal as u just said......When Pac came to NYC he and Suge did the same thing...they went and got a gang of street connnected young dudes to hold them down while on enemy turf...Deathrow did the same thing Badboy was doing but yet we say Badboy was scared???? well.....wouldn't the same logic apply to Deathrow also????

 

[Bigsuk]

SSCC was one of the biggest Crip gangs in the world at the time....they aint give a damn about going to war with some cat from NYC

They had just merked Pac and had been beefing with Suge and MOB for awhile, so some out of towner would be small things to a giant for them California niccaz....I know how deep Zip was in the streets of NEW YORK, but that don't translate to being a big dawg in Cali.


I aint saying that DR did nothing about it, but again...u beefing with SSCC.....shyt man....when the war popped off them MOB cats was getting lit up left and right by SSCC......hell......Orlando was killed by a CRIP years later, that just further proves my point...the man who popped Pac, bragged about popping Pac lived for years without being touched by the MOB...IJS

King .... Mob piru had another even more dangerous beef to be concerned with .... Wen monkey man and lil rod linked up with a crew from fruit town piru and went to war with mob that was even more dangerous then beefing with sscc cause they alll knew eachother and things about eachother that popped off in late 96 early 97 ...so there energy and attention shifted from sscc .....

 

[Lefty Gunz]

 

[Bigsuk]

Thats some of my point.....Puffy wasn't scared...he had GOONS at his disposal as u just said......When Pac came to NYC he and Suge did the same thing...they went and got a gang of street connnected young dudes to hold them down while on enemy turf...Deathrow did the same thing Badboy was doing but yet we say Badboy was scared???? well.....wouldn't the same logic apply to Deathrow also????

... Could say that but badboy wasnt even there they were down miami ... They did that with the impression jimmy henchman and hatian jack n crew might show up anyway ... Pac was walking though nyc aswell not just at the awards ...

 

[King Karim]

King .... Mob piru had another even more dangerous beef to be concerned with .... Wen monkey man and lil rod linked up with a crew from fruit town piru and went to war with mob that was even more dangerous then beefing with sscc cause they alll knew eachother and things about eachother that popped off in late 96 early 97 ...so there energy and attention shifted from sscc .....

that means nothing in regard to my statement bro....that's simply the lives of street nikkaz


u think MOB was SSCC only beef??? esp after dumping on Pac??????? now that's more gang beef for them, and street beef from Pac fans

 

[King Karim]

... Could say that but badboy wasnt even there they were down miami ... They did that with the impression jimmy henchman and hatian jack n crew might show up anyway ... Pac was walking though nyc aswell not just at the awards ...

don't matter where badboy was at during the time, they were in NYC....hell when Badboy was constantly in LA....who is to say that Suge/Pac were in town at the time?? see this goes both ways...can't just give DR the benefit of every doubt without doing the same to BB.....remember Badboy turned the beef violent FIRST!! that's important!


Pac was walking through NYC with about 100 dudes with him...not like he was just walking through Brooklyn with him and 1 or 2 homies....Pac wasn't dumb...he knew cats in NYC wanted his head

 

[Bigsuk]

that means nothing in regard to my statement bro....that's simply the lives of street nikkaz


u think MOB was SSCC only beef??? esp after dumping on Pac??????? now that's more gang beef for them, and street beef from Pac fans

It does if they all grew up with eachother and knew alot about eachother its much more dangerous ... I get the inpression you making out mob was soft or something ... They clearly were not .... I asked greg based on which gang he thought was more dangerous as a whole and he said mob was ....... Point is fruit town beef was way worse then sscc beef ... Look how many pirus got killed over the in-flighting from 97-early 2000s ..