Iran helped 9/11, using the Saudis as proxies. Look at the facts. - US Treasury agrees

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Let me preface this. I am NOT excusing, pardoning, or changing any blame The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) has had to 9/11, radicalism, or any sort of exported extremism. Not at all.

As for the Iranian Connection? Its damn near confirmed IMO

Back in 2011 (before the nuclear deal so miss me on that "this is recent" talk) it was shown that Iran had funded the transportation of 9/11 terrorists and had DEEP connections with cultivating sunni terrorists to poke the West: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/world/middleeast/20terror.html?_r=0

There was a secret union between Mughniyeh and Zawahiri (if you don't know who either of these people are read this book: The Looming Tower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Pulitzer Prize Winner BTW)

Apparently the US knew that Iran was pushing money to Al-Qaeda decades ago but secretly held the proof.


Why would Iran do this?

Anti-Westernization. Thats it.

Iran has been funding sunni extremists to poke at the west even going back past Lockerbie and the USA knew it at the time immediately. Dudes gotta read more primary sources. I even had a thread about a 2002 interview with a CIA officer (who was the inspiration for the movie Syriana) discussing the intense relational history between Iran and the USA and their role in secretly backing most of the "terrorist" behavior even going back to the early 80s and stuff like the Marine Barracks bombings and the kidnapping and torture of the CIA Station Chief http://www.thecoli.com/threads/form...-a-very-eye-opening-interview-on-iran.418521/

Iran has been pushing us so hard.

Iranians were the ones who DIDNT stamp the passport of the hijackers as they left Afghanistan to pass through Iran. That shyt can't happen without Iran having a hand in it.

Hezbollah has BEEN shown to have a fukking link to Iran and funding acts of terror.

In fact, how is it possible that a LEBANESE man named Ali Al-Jarrah was a CONFIRMED spy for Israel going back to 1983 and was found to even have helped coordinate the assassination of Syrian general Mohammed Suleiman (CONFIRMED BY SNOWDENS LEAKS, BTW) yet have a COUSIN named ZIAD Al JARRAH...a fukking HIJACKER ON FLIGHT 93?! Your cousin, when you have connections to Hezbollah ends up Flight 93 and you are one of Israels' most vital double agents...and you know nothing about it? Either The West is getting played by Iran, this guy played Israel, or he knew about his Cousin's role in 9/11....ain't no way he didn't know ZIAD's involvement. The US Government held this information until it was forced to reveal it in court.

Something has been going on here and everyone knows it :francis:

There was an Iranian dissident named Abolghassem Mesbahi who ran intel operations for Iran who defected to Germany after being tagged for assassination living in Germany who tried to warn german officials and his intelligence handlers about 9/11 when he found out there was a plan activated but they didn't listen to him. Mesbahi was used in the LOCKERBIE bombing testimony to confirm Iran had a direct role in that.


In the late 90s when the Khobar Bombings happen in KSA, Even the director of the FBI Louis Freeh says the USA immediately knew the connections Iran had to the bombing that was blamed on sunni extremists: Louis Freeh’s Last Case - The New Yorker

The Washington Post: U.S. accuses Iran of aiding al-Qaeda

The New York Times: Treasury Accuses Iran of Aiding Al Qaeda

We KNOW Iran has harbored Al Qaeda terrorists and nurtured links: Will Iran Sell Out Al Qaeda for Nukes? This is not speculation. This is outright fact.

US DEPTARTMENT OF THE TREASURY: Treasury Targets Key Al-Qa'ida Funding and Support Network Using Iran as a Critical Transit Point 7/28/2011: http://information.iran911case.com/Exhibit_38.pdf

BACK IN 1997
: U.S. Embassy (Islamabad), Cable, "Afghanistan: Observers Report
Uptick in Support for Anti-Taliban Factions by Iran" http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB97/tal23.pdf

fukking Ramzi bin Al-Shibh was making undocumented trips to Iran in 2001!!!!
German Bundeskriminalamt (BKA) documents re: Ramzi Binalshibh's February 2001 trip to Iran How the fukk does this always happen?!?! :mindblown:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB227/18.pdf


Was Iran involved in 9/11? - Mail Online - Melanie Phillips's blog

Affidavit of Patrick L. Clawson, PhD Regarding the Relationship Between Various Individuals and Entities and the Government of Iran

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/per...eal-9-11-links-between-Iran-and-al-Qaeda.html

As I See It: Game-changer: Iran’s involvement with 9/11


If you read the 9/11 commission it makes SPECIFIC note of an unnamed "Senior Hezbollah Operative" who coordinated the movement of the future hijackers in and out and throughout Iran and flew on a plane with one of the fukking future hijackers. National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

That person was Imad Mughniyeh who was assassinated by a joint CIA/MOSSAD operation in 2008. RealClearPolitics - Articles - Mughniyeh's True Legacy

If you don't know who Mughniyeh was, you have homework to do. :ufdup:

If you paid attention to the MASSIVE $10.5B lawsuit that accused Iran of facilitating the attacks, you'll know that the case is going forward to the US SUPREME COURT where arguments will be revealed showing that Iran directly facilitated key aspects of the 9/11 plot. Look at the court documents from the lawsuit. Its DAMNING: List of Exhibits & Evidence for the Iran 9/11 Case

Read the official lawsuit: http://information.iran911case.com/...ct_and_Conclusions_of_Law_Signed_12-22-11.pdf










and lastly....this bombshell:

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Don't think this is impossible. The GIA in Algeria did the same shyt to France when there were those bombings by the very extremists they were trying to crush during the civil war in the mid 90s when France was trying to intervene in the war.








 
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Uncovering the Hidden Truths of 9/11
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A view from the top of the escalators in the Bankers Trust building show the wreckage of the World Trade Center on September 25, 2001 in New York. (Photo: Eric Feferberg/AFP/Getty Images)

For nearly 15 years, ever since jihadists took down the Twin Towers and killed nearly 3,000 Americans, many have wondered how a bunch of novice terrorists—several of whom could barely fly an airplane, much less a big jetliner—could pull off such complex and audacious attack. What al-Qa’ida termed their ‘Planes Operation’ was meticulously planned prior to execution—but by whom, exactly?

That key question remains partly open, and the American public has never received the full explanation from our government that they deserve. I know what they have not been allowed to see: When 9/11 happened I was a counterintelligence officer with the National Security Agency and part of my purview was looking into state connections to international terrorism. I was one of the few officials in our Intelligence Community seriously looking into al-Qa’ida’s links to foreign intelligence before the Twin Towers fell.

In the months after the attacks, a complex intelligence picture emerged of who secretly aided al-Qa’ida in the run-up to 9/11—large portions of which were kept highly classified. Why they remain classified still is a good question that needs to be asked. Regrettably, the 9/11 Commission, which was established to get to the bottom of that national tragedy, dodged certain key questions—though in fairness to its members the Commission was not allowed to see some important evidence.

For want of a complete explanation, conspiracy theories have proliferated about 9/11, promising the “real” story. Most of this is toxic silliness, with bizarre Internet theorizing by fools and charlatans about how the Twin Towers were “really” destroyed by persons not in al-Qa’ida: Jews, the Pentagon, the Illuminati, or space aliens, depending on your preferred flight of fancy. Such ridiculousness unfortunately obscures the reality that there remain important unanswered questions about the Planes Operation.

Let me state that the job done by the 9/11 Commission was essentially accurate but incomplete. The attacks were the work of al-Qa’ida and their airborne assaults on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon unfolded as the U.S. Government has told you. The backstory they have omitted, however, is vitally important and needs public airing.

This vexing issue is back in the news again thanks to CBS, whose 60 Minutesprogram reported on the so-called “28 Pages,” the portion of the official report on 9/11 that has been withheld from the public since 2003, through two presidencies. Many former officials, including members of Congress, long demanded Washington release the 28 Pages, to no avail. Presidents Bush and Obama have demurred because those pages reveal some very unflattering things about Saudi Arabia, our longtime ally.

Since the U.S. Government did not do its job, the task of unraveling Iran’s links to 9/11 has fallen to private citizens.

As the 28 Pages make clear, Saudi officials had contacts with some of the 9/11 hijackers that can charitably be termed odd. To any counterintelligence professional, these connections—combined with the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi nationals—raise enormous red flags, particularly because there were visible connections between some of the hijackers and Saudi intelligence agents in the United States.

Just as bad, the U.S. Government, even in highly classified channels, demonstrated a stunning lack of interest in running down possible Saudi connections to the Planes Operation. Nobody really wanted to know what Riyadh’s role might have been. Accepting that a close ally may have had some sort of hand in 9/11 was a possibility seemingly too awful for the George W. Bush White House to contemplate.

Worse, the Bush administration enabled numerous Saudi nationals—including some with worrying connections to the hijackers—to flee the United States after 9/11, preventing any real investigation from taking place. While it is overwrought to present this as a grand conspiracy, as some seek to do, Americans should have questions about what was going on here. At a minimum, the FBI seems to have stonewalled efforts to look into what some of those Saudis were up to in the months before the attacks.

Yet nobody should expect Washington, DC, to come clean about this anytime soon. Almost 15 years later, admitting that two administrations have kept important facts about 9/11 from the public would cause political trauma. Not least because bipartisan refusal to admit the full truth about major terrorist attacks is something of a tradition in our nation’s capital. Additionally, Riyadh has reacted hysterically to recent public comments on the 28 Pages, threatening dire economic pain if Americans start asking pointed questions about any Saudi angle to the Planes Operation. That they have something to hide is painfully obvious.

What exactly Saudi Arabia is hiding, though, may be less nefarious than some suspect. It’s evident that Saudi officials, both from their government and from several jihad-linked “Islamic charities,” provided material assistance to some of the 9/11 hijackers. This was the same template that Riyadh employed for decades—throwing money at radicals and terrorists in the hope they cause trouble outside the Kingdom rather than inside it—right until the Planes Operation exposed how toxic this nefarious Saudi bargain really was.

There is no evidence that Saudi assistance to 9/11 was more than tactical. Based on their usual modus operandi with jihadists, it seems extraordinarily unlikely that Riyadh, per se, had anything to do with the Planes Operation. Low-level support to radicals had been Saudi policy for so long that they may have done so here without pondering consequences. We may never get to the bottom of exactly what Saudi officials were doing in the months before the Twin Towers fell.

This all looks eerily like the murky backstory to the June 28, 1914 Sarajevo assassination that caused World War One. We know Serbian intelligence was behind the attack—it was state-sponsored terrorism—just as we know that Russian intelligence was actually funding the assassination plot. However, over a century later we still don’t know whether the Russian government officially approved that—records, if they ever existed, were long ago destroyed—and it’s certainly possible that eager mid-level Tsarist spies were acting without official go-ahead.

Moreover, focusing solely on Saudi tactical support to the Planes Operation obscures the bigger question of possible strategic support to 9/11. In other words, did any governments secretly aid al-Qa’ida in even more substantial ways than Riyadh did? Regrettably this question was always considered even more off-limits inside the Beltway than talking about Saudi involvement in 9/11—and it still remains explosive today.

That Iran had some sort of hand in the Planes Operation has long been suspected by many insiders. Contrary to what “terrorism experts” may say, Tehran was always willing to aid Sunni extremists like al-Qa’ida, while Osama bin Laden and his ilk were equally willing to accept secret help from the Shia they despise. Iranian intelligence has enjoyed a clandestine relationship with al-Qa’ida going back to the early 1990s, and U.S. intelligence has known of meetings between their leadership and top Tehran spies since 1996.

As I exposed in my 2007 book Unholy Terror, it was this toxic secret brew of Saudi cash and Iranian know-how that enabled al-Qa’ida in the 1990s to transform from a regional terrorist group into a global movement and threat. The real road to 9/11 was paved by Riyadh’s moneymen and Tehran’s spies, who despite their mutual antipathy were both eager to help bin Laden and his movement in their jihad against the West.

Despite these facts, the 9/11 Commission demonstrated little interest in Iranian ties to the Planes Operation. While admitting that several of the hijackers had transited Iran, and that Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, the notorious KSM, the jihadist entrepreneur who came up with the Planes Operation, had stashed his family in Iran for years, it went no further. Why Tehran would want to help Sunni radicals was left essentially unexplored. In particular, the 9/11 Commission punted on the obvious lines of inquiry that such information opened up to anyone with eyes wanting to see, lamely noting that the issue of Iran’s role “requires further investigation by the U.S. Government.”

That additional inquiry never came. In fairness to the 9/11 Commission, they were not allowed to see important information that might have changed their minds. In particular, they did not see NSA signals intelligence that shed significant light on Iran’s clandestine role supporting al-Qa’ida generally and the Planes Operation particularly. SIGINT from NSA makes up the lion’s share of intelligence in our government, and the fact that the 9/11 Commission was never shown the impressive full NSA archive of reports, many highly classified, on the very topic they were investigating seems incomprehensible.

Since the U.S. Government did not do its job, the task of unraveling Iran’s links to 9/11 has fallen to private citizens who have filed suit against Tehran, with some success. At a minimum, they have marshaled impressive evidence that Iran’s secret role was important and something that needs serious examination. Recently a Federal judge agreed, ordering Tehran to pay more than $10.5 billion in damages to the families of 9/11 victims on the basis of Iran’s role in that criminal conspiracy.

Nearly six years ago, I implored our government to at last deal with the knotty issue of foreign ties to 9/11, in particular to release any and all intelligence that bears on this vital question, to no avail. The same questions remain: What foreign governments had any operational impact on 9/11? What was Saudi Arabia’s role? How many hijackers spent time in Iran and what were they doing there? Were any al-Qa’ida officials involved in the Planes Operation, especially KSM, assessed as Iranian agents? What about Imad Mughniyeh, Iran’s arch-terrorist, who before his 2008 death is believed to have enjoyed a close relationship with certain top Sunni jihadists? Did Mughniyeh have anything to do with 9/11?

Answering these questions will finally bring the real backstory of 9/11 into focus. By all means our government ought to release the 28 Pages, the public should demand no less. Yet there is no point in unmasking Saudi Arabia’s role in the murder of nearly 3,000 Americans while ignoring the equally important, and possibly far greater role of Iran behind 9/11. It’s time for the truth to be revealed. The victims and the American public deserve nothing less than the full story of September 11, 2001.
 

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This nikka still lives in the fantasy world that Iran would antagonize the ally (America) of its arch enemy (Saudi Arabia) to invade the middle east

If Iran was directly involved in anyway we would have leveled Tehran by now.

Face it. The Saudis and Americans financed, facilitated and coverupped the 9/11 attacks.


If there was anyway to link Iran, they would have
 

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This nikka still lives in the fantasy world that Iran would antagonize the ally (America) of its arch enemy (Saudi Arabia) to invade the middle east

If Iran was directly involved in anyway we would have leveled Tehran by now.

Face it. The Saudis and Americans financed, facilitated and coverupped the 9/11 attacks.


If there was anyway to link Iran, they would have
Its not about invading the middle east. Its about terrorism.

Stay on point.

And we can't "level" Tehran because:

1. They're a military power
2. They'd fast-track a nuke
3. Iran has had a role in the 9/11 attacks. Read the fukking commission report. You don't even know which saudis were involved. The sunnis and shias can link up when it comes to knocking down "american imperialism"




There IS a link to Iran. You won't even read the fukking lawsuit that just was handed down to the tune of $10.5B

You really don't know shyt and I keep proving this to you.

Iran has a direct role in 9/11 in the form of funding, organization, and facilitation.

Many of the hijackers and facilitators like Khalid Sheik Mohammed's family was stashed away in Iran.

I bet you didn't even know that :ufdup:
 

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Its not about invading the middle east. Its about terrorism.

Stay on point.

And we can't "level" Tehran because:

1. They're a military power
2. They'd fast-track a nuke
3. Iran has had a role in the 9/11 attacks. Read the fukking commission report. You don't even know which saudis were involved. The sunnis and shias can link up when it comes to knocking down "american imperialism"




There IS a link to Iran. You won't even read the fukking lawsuit that just was handed down to the tune of $10.5B

You really don't know shyt and I keep proving this to you.

Iran has a direct role in 9/11 in the form of funding, organization, and facilitation.

Many of the hijackers and facilitators like Khalid Sheik Mohammed's family was stashed away in Iran.

I bet you didn't even know that :ufdup:

You really don't get geo politics don't you :francis:
 

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This nikka still lives in the fantasy world that Iran would antagonize the ally (America) of its arch enemy (Saudi Arabia) to invade the middle east

If Iran was directly involved in anyway we would have leveled Tehran by now.

Face it. The Saudis and Americans financed, facilitated and coverupped the 9/11 attacks.


If there was anyway to link Iran, they would have

Iran does antagonize America and Saudi Arabia and has for at least three decades now.
 
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