Is it safe to say Canadians are overall better people than Americans?

[Carlton Banks]

Now in the midst of all these recent shootings, chokings and murders by police on black men happening I started doing a lot of personal black history studying that I never did or ignored in school and just been on my pro black shyt lately. I seen a thread about this talking bout "why do black Americans stay in america" and everyone was going back and forth about Canada.... Just a quick history and facts I've learned about Canada and the history of slavery there...

• There were only 2,000 recorded black slaves in Canada compared to America's 4 million. 1200 between Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island / 300 in lower Canada (Quebec) / 500 to upper Canada (Ontario)
  
• The first slaves in Canada were Aboriginal ("Indians") who enslaved other Aboriginals that were rivals and only purchased a small modest amount of slaves.
• The blacks were usually called "servants" and worked as house servants and farm workers.
• Canada never had a major plantation that needed slaves. Slaves were only brought for the lack of laborers cuz everyone was either fur traders, missionaries and farmers.
  
• Canadian abolitionist felt slavery was an offense against Christianity and in 1793 the Act Against Slavery gradually abolished slavery until 1833 when it was officially abolished. Which means slavery's been over for 181 years now with no segregation laws in between.
  
• The thousands of black Canadians who volunteered in the War of 1812 were rewarded by being set free and protected by the courts for their freedom.
• Throughout history there's never been an actual KKK or hate group in Canada. Only one recorded was 90 years ago in Ontario.
• Segregation was never a law, only unofficial in certain areas.
• Free health care for all Canadians? You gotta care about your people to offer them that.
• Customs is a bytch getting into Canada. They have 0 tolerance for people with criminal records or potential criminal backgrounds. They want their people civilized and active members in their society.
  
• Canadians have a reputation of being friendly nice people.

Now I'm not saying Canada is the perfect end all to happiness, peace and prosperity. But when you compare it's history to the US, and you see all the things that have been happening for years since slavery and segregation were abolished in America, KKK, lynchings, race riots, and all that other stuff it makes me wonder. Racism still exists everywhere where there are groups of different people living amongst each other but in America it's rampant and a much more racially driven society. It's hard on a black male. It's hard everywhere but I can imagine it being a bit easier for blacks in Canada being that their media doesn't stereotype them as gangsters and thugs like we get in America thanks to gangsta rap or gangsta movies. I mean does Canada even have gangsta rappers or trap houses? I wouldn't know, but that's besides the point. Canada's history seems pretty clean compared to most areas in the world

 

[Ronald McDonald]

maybe...

but best believe that if there were ever as many black people (percentage wise) in Canada than there were/are in America, then canadians wouldve shown their true colors as well. Of course, there's no evidence to support this claim, just the tendencies of a certain group of people

 

[Carlton Banks]

maybe...

but best believe that if there were ever as many black people (percentage wise) in Canada than there were/are in America, then canadians wouldve shown their true colors as well. Of course, there's no evidence to support this claim, just the tendencies of a certain group of people

I think they would've showed their true colors 100's of years ago when slavery was legal. I mean, they only brought in 2,000 slaves, half of that which were Africans, the other being Aboriginals compared to the 4 million African slaves in the US. It shows Canadians were never greedy people. Slavery was big business, but Canadians never capitalized on it. You can argue and say they didn't need to, but neither did the Northern colonies in America and there's still horrible history there.

 

[Ronald McDonald]

I think they would've showed their true colors 100's of years ago when slavery was legal. I mean, they only brought in 2,000 slaves, half of that which were Africans, the other being Aboriginals compared to the 4 million African slaves in the US. It shows Canadians were never greedy people. Slavery was big business, but Canadians never capitalized on it. You can argue and say they didn't need to, but neither did the Northern colonies in America and there's still horrible history there.

They didn't bring over as many slaves because they literally didnt need to. In 1860 there were as many slaves in the US as there was people in Canada. That's 3 million people. Think about that. America's total population at the time was 30 million, 10 times that of Canada's, and when half of that 30 million is almost entirely dependent on slaves for their region's economic output, then of course they're going to continue to bring over more slaves. I'm not trying to justify it, but it certainly isn't as black and white as "we hate blacks, we must continue to use them as slaves just because" like some would like to believe.

 

[TravexdaGod]

Nothing against Canadians, but Canada in those days was a willing member of British imperialism/racism/oppression, and still glorify that heritage to this day. If you're a runaway slave in those days heading from the U.S. to Canada, you go from being a slave in America to a slave to Britain. And they have their share of problems with racism and the like, just like America does. We all have less than glorious pasts and presents. Let's not delude ourselves just because of what's going on in America right now.

 

[Carlton Banks]

They didn't bring over as many slaves because they literally didnt need to. In 1860 there were as many slaves in the US as there was people in Canada. That's 3 million people. Think about that. America's total population at the time was 30 million, 10 times that of Canada's, and when half of that 30 million is almost entirely dependent on slaves for their region's economic output, then of course they're going to continue to bring over more slaves. I'm not trying to justify it, but it certainly isn't as black and white as "we hate blacks, we must continue to use them as slaves just because" like some would like to believe.

I'm confused cuz I'm not sure if you're agreeing with my post or disagreeing, cuz we're pretty much saying the same thing. Canadians didn't need to. But I'm saying they could've. They could've capitalized on it if they were greedy enough.

 

[Ronald McDonald]

I'm confused cuz I'm not sure if you're agreeing with my post or disagreeing, cuz we're pretty much saying the same thing. Canadians didn't need to. But I'm saying they could've. They could've capitalized on it if they were greedy enough.

lol im saying that the they didn't do it because they had no reason to. Not because they're "better people" than americans.

 

[Just like bruddas]

At another job site i have to let in canadians truckers for shipments and these dudes are the most friendliest strangers i have met. Then the American rednecks come in

 

[Thoughts]

I have an old schoolmate in Canada smashing all types of PAWGS, his Facebook suggests he's not returning no time soon. Actually my brother's friend's wife is Canadian I think. Dudes love it over there.

 

[Dirty D]

Very safe

 

[Mowgli]

Now in the midst of all these recent shootings, chokings and murders by police on black men happening I started doing a lot of personal black history studying that I never did or ignored in school and just been on my pro black shyt lately. I seen a thread about this talking bout "why do black Americans stay in america" and everyone was going back and forth about Canada.... Just a quick history and facts I've learned about Canada and the history of slavery there...

• There were 2,000 recorded black slaves in Canada. 1200 between Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island / 300 in lower Canada (Quebec) / 500 to upper Canada (Ontario)
• The first slaves in Canada were Aboriginal ("Indians") who enslaved other Aboriginals that were rivals and only purchased a small modest amount of slaves.
• The blacks were usually called "servants" and worked as house servants and farm workers.
• Canada never had a major plantation that needed slaves. Slaves were only brought for the lack of laborers cuz everyone was either fur traders, missionaries and farmer.
  
• Canadian abolitionist felt slavery was an offense against Christianity and in 1793 the Act Against Slavery gradually abolished slavery until 1833 when it was officially abolished. Which means slavery's been over for 181 years now with no segregation laws in between.
  
• The thousands of black Canadians who volunteered in the War of 1812 were rewarded by being set free and protected by the courts for their freedom.
• Throughout history there's never been an actual KKK or hate group in Canada. Only one recorded was 90 years ago in Ontario.
• Segregation was never a law, only unofficial in certain areas.
• Free health care for all Canadians? You gotta care about your people to offer them that.
• Customs is a bytch getting into Canada. They have 0 tolerance for people with criminal records or potential criminal backgrounds. They want their people civilized and active members in their society.
  
• Canadians have a reputation of being friendly nice people.

Now I'm not saying Canada is the perfect end all to happiness, peace and prosperity. But when you compare it's history to the US, and you see all the things that have been happening for years since slavery and segregation were abolished in America, KKK, lynchings, race riots, and all that other stuff it makes me wonder. Racism still exists everywhere where there are groups of different people living amongst each other but in America it's rampant and a much more racially driven society. It's hard on a black male. It's hard everywhere but I can imagine it being a bit easier for blacks in Canada being that their media doesn't stereotype them as gangsters and thugs like we get in America thanks to gangsta rap or gangsta movies. I mean does Canada even have gangsta rappers or trap houses? I wouldn't know, but that's besides the point. Canada's history seems pretty clean compared to most areas in the world

Ignoe Canadian Genocide of natives bruhs. They're pieces of shyt to and to this day still havnt given any real reparations to the ancestors of the people they slaughtered. fukk French Canadians.

A good cac, oxymoron.

 

[Carlton Banks]

lol im saying that the they didn't do it because they had no reason to. Not because they're "better people" than americans.

But I'm looking at the full spectrum. Never has hate been such a strong part of a countries culture than America. You go to this website http://www.blackwallstreet.freeservers.com/ then try to find me something similar to that of Canada. Hate for black people in America is unfortunately part of American culture. Canada never had such animosity towards blacks. There's no hate groups or major timelines about oppressions. Of course there will be racism no matter what, but it's not a deep rooted thing in Canadian history or culture like with America.

 

[Lavish]

Salute brother. Thats all i was trying to say in my thread. Then got side tracked a few people who just wanted to debate for the sake of debating.

We do have drug houses and thugs..but at a much lesser scale. not sure about the rest of canada, but toronto averages like 70 murders a year. Which is nothing, but when you look at where these murders are taking place, there mainly from 2 or 3 areas and/or neighborhoods.

As far as racism, like you said, racism is everywhere but in canada its less in your face. And also lesser scale. They are way more bold in america. Some of the stares i get in america in a white city..never happen to me in canada

 

[Blackout]

Canada is full of c00ns

 

[Ronald McDonald]

But I'm looking at the full spectrum. Never has hate been such a strong part of a countries culture than America. You go to this website http://www.blackwallstreet.freeservers.com/ then try to find me something similar to that of Canada. Hate for black people in America is unfortunately part of American culture. Canada never had such animosity towards blacks. There's no hate groups or major timelines about oppressions. Of course there will be racism no matter what, but it's not a deep rooted thing in Canadian history or culture like with America.

You're right guy but like I said that can mostly be attributed to the history of the two nations. The original White American and Canadian were British breh. They were the ones that brought slavery to both the U.S. and Canada, so who should we really be debating about here?