Is there a way to be a part of hiphop culture without being involved with the streets?

[Guvnor]

I'm asking this question due to a culmination of things. First off it's because the other day I was listening to Joey Diaz's podcast and he spoke on the teamsters union and how they used to have people shook, which shows that even folks who have successful businesses and things of that nature have to pay a fee. There were times when Joey also spoke on The Mafia and the way they made sure they got a cut of many things involving major construction in NY.

Then there was another thread on here about Tip paying Big U for protection.

The final straw was when I heard Fat Joe tell a story about an notorious drug dealer named Kato and how when he first seen Kanye West, Kanye was carrying Kato's bags.

Check it out here:


With that said my question is if dealing with the streets is an inevitable part of hiphop culture for rap artist as well as even business for some people? Also how do guys like Childish Gambino, Chance and others who are not from the street avoid this? Just something I was wondering about...

 

[Alvin]

Hip-Hop was born and financed from low-income areas where people who do illegal activities are the ones who have the money. When you work or finance in places where criminals operate then you always run that risk. But yeah, simple don't be involved in street shyt or have street people finance you

 

[Insensitive]

How ? If you have direct access to studio heads you can bypass things of that nature.

If you're wealthy or already have fame and a fan base like Donald you can just sell your shyt to them. Lol. And if they really believe you're the first rapper to ever rap about your insecurities or not be a gangster even better.

Why ? Because then they can see themselves in you. Your mediocrity doesn't matter, being good at the craft of rapping doesn't matter, their ignorance is your chance to profit.

 

[Guvnor]

Hip-Hop was born and financed from low-income areas where people who do illegal activities are the ones who have the money. When you work or finance in places where criminals operate then you always run that risk. But yeah, simple don't be involved in street shyt or have street people finance you

I don't think that's how it works though, I think the street folks usually want a fee from the rappers lol.

How ? If you have direct access to studio heads you can bypass things of that nature.

If you're wealthy or already have fame and a fan base like Donald you can just sell your shyt to them. Lol. And if they really believe you're the first rapper to ever rap about your insecurities or not be a gangster even better.

Why ? Because then they can see themselves in you. Your mediocrity doesn't matter, being good at the craft of rapping doesn't matter, their ignorance is your chance to profit.

My question is how do they avoid being shaken down though. A lot of rappers you hear stories about them getting their chain snatched and what not and the ones who don't are rumored to pay protection and stuff like that. So how can a guy clean like Donald Glover and maybe a few others keep their hands clean and stay away from things like that happening, especially in Los Angeles.

 

[TransJenner]

Ask Chance

 

[Guvnor]

Ask Chance

I would if I could.

 

[Still Benefited]

you can rap but not be apart of what I would respect as the culture

meaning hiphop comes from the streets,so if you not getting love in the streets,or making music for the streets,or black people from those streets?you doing some other shyt more than likely.

so the answer is pretty much no

people like to pretend Pac was some stupid nikka for associating with all these street nikkas like Hatian Jack etc....when in reality thats what all they favorite rappers was doing back in the day.....the key is nikkas was on they Kanye and carrying nikkas like Jimmy Henchmens bags

but its a bad situation,if you a nikka who wants to get away from that shyt and just rap about where you come from and represent,you shouldnt have to face extortion and shakedown,be fake friends with these nikkas or even respect or associate with them if you dont want to.....but seems like at some point you will have to,or you can try to buck the system and end up shot like Pac and 50

 

[Alvin]

I don't think that's how it works though, I think the street folks usually want a fee from the rappers lol.


My question is how do they avoid being shaken down though. A lot of rappers you hear stories about them getting their chain snatched and what not and the ones who don't are rumored to pay protection and stuff like that. So how can a guy clean like Donald Glover and maybe a few others keep their hands clean and stay away from things like that happening, especially in Los Angeles.

yes rappers who want to act gangster or tough, doesn't happen to chance. When is the last time chance was in lawndale trying to bang moe or VL?

 

[zerozero]

I'm no expert on this but it's probably like Dr Dre said

Some nikkas'll get money and pay nikkas to back em
So they can act up, feel comfortable, and rap tough
And that's ass backwards, cause them nikkas just gone keep coming back
And that's when extortion happens
You struggle to get free, I know how this shyt be
You deal with anything to live legitimately

You accept a 'favor' from somebody and you get stuck...

Another way to think of this: why don't Justin Bieber or Selena Gomez get extorted, but random dusty C-list rappers get extorted?

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Nvm I missed understood the question. Hold on

 

[King Jove]

be the type of rapper that street nikkas don't even have on their radar.

don't nobody press nikkas like travis scott because he's in a completely different lane.

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

I doubt someone like Childish Gambino is going outside of where he needs to go in L.A. so there's no need for him to be around street dudes, probably the same with Chance

It's the dudes who portray the image of street nikkas who need to mingle with official street nikkas all so they can feel certified that run the risk of getting extorted

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

I'm asking this question due to a culmination of things. First off it's because the other day I was listening to Joey Diaz's podcast and he spoke on the teamsters union and how they used to have people shook, which shows that even folks who have successful businesses and things of that nature have to pay a fee. There were times when Joey also spoke on The Mafia and the way they made sure they got a cut of many things involving major construction in NY.

Then there was another thread on here about Tip paying Big U for protection.

The final straw was when I heard Fat Joe tell a story about an notorious drug dealer named Kato and how when he first seen Kanye West, Kanye was carrying Kato's bags.

Check it out here:


With that said my question is if dealing with the streets is an inevitable part of hiphop culture for rap artist as well as even business for some people? Also how do guys like Childish Gambino, Chance and others who are not from the street avoid this? Just something I was wondering about...

OP you fail to realize THE REAL GANGSTERS are wearing the three piece suites and sit in luxury offices...

Not on the blocks with Bandanas and "sticks"....

Chance The rapper and Childish Gambino signed with Hollywood agents with a history darker than the CIA ....

Chance's boss CARA LEWIS

Has been the most feared woman in the music game since the days of Eric B whom she represented.....

She started with the CAA firm outta Hollywood under Mike Ovitz who was notorious for his violent outbursts and threats....


In October 1989, screenwriter Joe Eszterhas, who’d just sold “Basic Instinct” for a record $3 million, accused Ovitz of threatening to destroy his career if he left CAA. Miller reports that Ovitz allegedly said, “My foot soldiers who go up and down Wilshire Boulevard each day will blow your brains out.”

This is the same Ovitz whom started with the William Morris Agency which is representing Childish Gambino....

FBI has had WMA on its radar since the 7Os when it was clear that they were basically a front for the GENOVESE family

Check this organised crime report from 2000 about Childish Gambino boss:

Law-enforcement officials point to superagent Lee Salomon of the William Morris Agency as being linked to a top Genovese captain named James (Jimmy Nap) Napoli. In the late 1960s, at a time when the government was bugging the talent agency's Manhattan office, Salomon was arranging for Napoli's wife Jeanne, an unknown singer, to get star billing for her nightclub act.

Since then, the agent has represented the likes of Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme, Julio Iglesias, Tony Orlando and Jackie Mason. "The stars are victims more than co-conspirators," maintains a Mafia investigator. "In order to work, they have to cooperate."


OP You are racially brainwashed into thinking it's the negroes and Latinos and the streets you got to fear..when in reality these Jews and Italians and Russians make the Crips and bloods look like church choirs.,

And they don't care where or how they get Thier money..these mobster like agents don't give a fukk about Woke Culture lol

Hell they were the ones PIMPING the Public Enemies and the Xclans in the 80s and 90s

So it's Childish to think or assume some black artists can avoid the corporate Gambinos

cause they ALL GETTING EXTORTED.....

 

[ahdsend]

10:35....

 

[Guvnor]

be the type of rapper that street nikkas don't even have on their radar.

don't nobody press nikkas like travis scott because he's in a completely different lane.

He from houston though which is very hood lol. Which makes you wonder if maybe he paying someone or just got genuine respect like that.

you can rap but not be apart of what I would respect as the culture

meaning hiphop comes from the streets,so if you not getting love in the streets,or making music for the streets,or black people from those streets?you doing some other shyt more than likely.

so the answer is pretty much no

people like to pretend Pac was some stupid nikka for associating with all these street nikkas like Hatian Jack etc....when in reality thats what all they favorite rappers was doing back in the day.....the key is nikkas was on they Kanye and carrying nikkas like Jimmy Henchmens bags

but its a bad situation,if you a nikka who wants to get away from that shyt and just rap about where you come from and represent,you shouldnt have to face extortion and shakedown,be fake friends with these nikkas or even respect or associate with them if you dont want to.....but seems like at some point you will have to,or you can try to buck the system and end up shot like Pac and 50

You get exactly what I'm trying to say. I mean why can't someone who is from the streets just tell there story, make music and move forward in life. Come back the hood and build with the people without being pressured to have to give their money to some OG or something. If anything the OGs and whatn ot should look out for them and have there back cause they made it out the hood and are doing well for themselves.

I mean even Snoop had folks from LBC trying to discredit him and put their hands in his pocket and he put on for his hood heavy...



Though a lot of these OG's would never go after white artist or artist not from the culture.

Even in white culture though the mobsters made sure their got their cut if you was a construction company because they owned a lot of sanitation companies and in construction many times you would need a dumpster. They owned bricks companies and things like too so you always had to deal with them.

In a lot of business there is unions like teamsters that cared about getting their cut of money too.