Jim Ross goes off on the status of heels in WWE

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I've been saying for a while now, especially since watchign old matches on the Network, that old heel tactics needs to come back. Using tights for roll-ups, using the ropes for leverage in submissions, then letting go when the refs looking. Etc
 

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This is why Cesaro & Lesnar don't get booed nearly as much as they could. People are utterly impressed with Cesaro cause he does nothing but go out there and whoop ass. Lesnar can get booed now cause he has the streak to brag about, but before now there was no reason to boo him. Heyman is the only true reason either of them can get booed now.

And I've been sayin' this for a while too... heels ain't supposed to be "cool" and fan-friendly. As much as I found JBL's long ass title reign boring, I did like that he made no attempts to be anything but a heel. He antagonized everybody the whole way and made people wanna boo him for the shyt he said and how he'd always cheat his way to a win.
 

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It's 2014, the "heels always cheat" shyt is hillbilly wrestling. If JR was in charge every heel would grab the tights to pin someone and cut "these people don't get it in (insert city), because they're idiots!" type promos.

Brock Lesnar shouldn't have to cheat or be a coward. Look how over any heel got in any combat sport without cheating. A good heel can be a dominant a$$hole. Batista kicking DBry's ass and calling him too small to be a top guy or in the business would get a lot of heat.
 

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I think it's so hard to be a heel in an era where people love the bad guy the anti authority people that do what they want aren't considered bad guys anymore they are cool.. People like cena get booed because he doesn't represent the average person, he is like the giddy two shoes company guy type and people don't like that.. But I do understand where he is coming from
 

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This is why Cesaro & Lesnar don't get booed nearly as much as they could. People are utterly impressed with Cesaro cause he does nothing but go out there and whoop ass. Lesnar can get booed now cause he has the streak to brag about, but before now there was no reason to boo him. Heyman is the only true reason either of them can get booed now.

And I've been sayin' this for a while too... heels ain't supposed to be "cool" and fan-friendly. As much as I found JBL's long ass title reign boring, I did like that he made no attempts to be anything but a heel. He antagonized everybody the whole way and made people wanna boo him for the shyt he said and how he'd always cheat his way to a win.

The problem with Cesaro is he shouldn't be a heel, he was no character or personality right now and his moveset is awesome, he's a natural face.

Brock is over as a heel, he was clearly the heel against Punk, got mostly booed against H, clearly the heel against taker, and will be the overwhelming heel against Bryan.
 

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But with Lesnar beating up on DB, he would have that "bully" aura, which JR also mentioned.

It would be more than just going out there and beating people in hard-fought victories.
 

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I think it's so hard to be a heel in an era where people love the bad guy the anti authority people that do what they want aren't considered bad guys anymore they are cool.. People like cena get booed because he doesn't represent the average person, he is like the giddy two shoes company guy type and people don't like that.. But I do understand where he is coming from

That's why HHH and batista are great heels right now. It's not that they grab tights or whatever 1985 Mississippi shyt, they don't come off as cartoon character bad guys, just convincing a$$holes with a sense of superiority to fan favorites like Punk and D Bry, and the fans themselves.
 

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That's why HHH and batista are great heels right now. It's not that they grab tights or whatever 1985 Mississippi shyt, they don't come off as cartoon character bad guys, just convincing @ssholes with a sense of superiority to fan favorites like Punk and D Bry, and the fans themselves.
Exactly!! It's a new era those things don't piss people off like they used to, grabbing tights or using the ropes for leverage isn't cheating it's smart .. People hate their boss nowadays they hate people that have unfair advantages, they hate a$$holes.. I think the baby faces need to do better to be honest, a lot of them are just unlikable or uninteresting. As much as cena is the top draw now he ain't hogan, Austin or the rock. Those characters were people you wanted to be cool successful and charismatic..
 
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TV wrestling villains must lie, selectively be a coward, be a bully when they can(online), gain unfair advantages(revising history bytch & moan(online), & disrespect fans

Sounds like lot of todays fans.


I think there is bigger issues than the heels right now. The commentary is embarrassing speak on that JR.
 
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