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As long as this quote exists, the debate over the purpose of the Civil War is pointless.
Most of them still feel that way about us, including the "liberals."
John Kelly: Robert E Lee was honorable man, lack of comprise led to civil war
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Most of them still feel that way about us, including the "liberals."
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Fast Money & Foreign Objects
The New York Times Opinion Section
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I have taught American history for 27 years at a university, and I open every class with a standard lecture that focuses on the three kinds of history: what actually happened, what we are told happened and what we come to believe happened. This is important because we live in a world in which what people believe happened is all that matters, and trying to get to the facts sadly appears less relevant.
John F. Kelly’s assertion that the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War baffled me, and I found myself having to tell my students that it’s this kind of opinion-based knowledge that is reckless, and why we must strive for fact-based knowledge.
--STEPHEN D. ENGLE, Letter to the Editor
Opinion | Baffled by John Kelly’s View of the Civil War
A history professor disagrees with the chief of staff’s comment that lack of compromise led to war.
NYTIMES.COM
1 hr ·
I have taught American history for 27 years at a university, and I open every class with a standard lecture that focuses on the three kinds of history: what actually happened, what we are told happened and what we come to believe happened. This is important because we live in a world in which what people believe happened is all that matters, and trying to get to the facts sadly appears less relevant.
John F. Kelly’s assertion that the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War baffled me, and I found myself having to tell my students that it’s this kind of opinion-based knowledge that is reckless, and why we must strive for fact-based knowledge.
--STEPHEN D. ENGLE, Letter to the Editor
Opinion | Baffled by John Kelly’s View of the Civil War
A history professor disagrees with the chief of staff’s comment that lack of compromise led to war.
NYTIMES.COM
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Global Domination
"Racism wasn't that bad. Some slaves had it better."
Yall took what I said the wrong way.
But this ^ is actually true though...
well putting aside that you can't be honorable and do what he did 
, too much compromise and letting shyt slide led to WWII.
All you have to do is read each state's declaration of secession to know there was no compromising with the South.
The South was never going to end slavery and they made it plainly clear in these documents.
It's sad that this is even a point of discussion.
The South was never going to end slavery and they made it plainly clear in these documents.
It's sad that this is even a point of discussion.
Take It In Blood
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I'm just hoping some black folks thinking about joining the army can see this thread that I'm upping with this reply.
This is who you're aligning yourself with
This is who you're aligning yourself with
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Nah, the military is a great way for a lot of black folks to transcend their current situation.
Take It In Blood
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The vast majority don't see combat or return home safe. The GI bill is a plus if education is your goal, but you don't have the means. The networking aspect is real. If you work in tech whole there you are a valuable hire if you already have your clearances (PTP-H/IT2 billets are around 40k per) and you could easily make 70k doing escorts (well into 6 figured if you're skilled), and it's an escape from an environment that'll do you in for many.
Im sure KKKelly thought if they had just went to Missouri and at least tried to make 3/5ths of a compromise there wouldn't been a war 