... I have all the new avengers and secret avengers but I have to finish the priest and hudlin run's first can't wait 
Tetu put the good wood on that instagram chick, that's why she went to sleep, anyone else peep that?
what's "TRO"?
I can't wait to catch up to y'all in the Bp muthos so I can be apart of this high level t'challa convo
Enasculation of the black superhero. Watch.I'm well aware of those scenes. Namor and the Cabal were meant to survive that shyt because Hickman wasn't done with them so he had to throw some duex ex machina one in a million bullshyt for that to happen with that extra planet takin em to another reality. That's why they survived. Ppl can blame it on BP all they want but the first time it happened, we saw Namor's face distraught and enraged as BP was sayin the quotes, and then everything blew up. It was only later that Hickman flipped it to have like 30 mins worth of dialogue go by so they could take advantage of a scenario that *nobody* saw coming and get out of that corner he wrote em in.
End of the day, BP outmaneuvered Namor, 'put the knife where it belonged', damned him to the planet he was gon blow up, blew up the planet and as far as everyone in 616 knew, Namor and the Cabal were dead and no longer an issue until Secret Wars (once existence was over with anyway)... in which BP then did no favors in protecting him from Dr. Doom's attack. In which Namor was brought back alive 5 mins later anyway.
Flaws and all, IDGAF. His plan brought back existence. That's not just a major accomplishment. That is the accomplishment. He brought back Wakanda, brought back the vibranium and established them as numero uno in the WORLD.
Extinction level event. Everyone dies. Because of BP's plan... everyone lives.
If Coates wants to fukk that up with his garbage interpretation, then that's a personal decision with Coates. If Coates wants to marginalize and undermine the flip side of all the good shyt that BP did after Doomwar and Secret Wars, then that's on Coates. But i personally will remind everybody each and everytime that as much feelings as people can catch for what BP did... BP saved existence, kept Wakanda healthy after Doomwar... saved existence... brought back the "future" of the nation... saved existence... brought back Vibranium... saved existence. So at some point those haters with their valid issues can STFU and say thank you to BP for puttin in work.
Not directed at you, but I am tired of the slander and the marginalization and the disrespect BP has gotten when this whole sequence of the events of the last 8 years was in part kickstarted when BP sacrificed himself to save a Dora Milaje... who should've been saving him! But now writers want to give selective memory and selective story telling to make BP seem inept or like this or that..
Well.. i guess i'll have to rep the other side of the equation then
I'm well aware of those scenes. Namor and the Cabal were meant to survive that shyt because Hickman wasn't done with them so he had to throw some duex ex machina one in a million bullshyt for that to happen with that extra planet takin em to another reality. That's why they survived. Ppl can blame it on BP all they want but the first time it happened, we saw Namor's face distraught and enraged as BP was sayin the quotes, and then everything blew up. It was only later that Hickman flipped it to have like 30 mins worth of dialogue go by so they could take advantage of a scenario that *nobody* saw coming and get out of that corner he wrote em in.
End of the day, BP outmaneuvered Namor, 'put the knife where it belonged', damned him to the planet he was gon blow up, blew up the planet and as far as everyone in 616 knew, Namor and the Cabal were dead and no longer an issue until Secret Wars (once existence was over with anyway)... in which BP then did no favors in protecting him from Dr. Doom's attack. In which Namor was brought back alive 5 mins later anyway.
Flaws and all, IDGAF
Extinction level event. Everyone dies. Because of BP's plan... everyone lives.
If Coates wants to fukk that up with his garbage interpretation, then that's a personal decision with Coates. If Coates wants to marginalize and undermine the flip side of all the good shyt that BP did after Doomwar and Secret Wars, then that's on Coates. But i personally will remind everybody each and everytime that as much feelings as people can catch for what BP did... BP saved existence, kept Wakanda healthy after Doomwar... saved existence... brought back the "future" of the nation... saved existence... brought back Vibranium... saved existence. So at some point those haters with their valid issues can STFU and say thank you to BP for puttin in work.
Not directed at you, but I am tired of the slander and the marginalization and the disrespect BP has gotten when this whole sequence of the events of the last 8 years was in part kickstarted when BP sacrificed himself to save a Dora Milaje... who should've been saving him! But now writers want to give selective memory and selective story telling to make BP seem inept or like this or that..
Well.. i guess i'll have to rep the other side of the equation then
I find his grasp of BP lacking in a large way.But selective memory is Comicbook Writing 101
My only problem with Coates is that so far, he's writing it like a novel...but not even as fiction. It'll probably read better as a trade, and it did pick up at the end of issue 4, but he has to have less exposition and more of a grasp of allowing the visuals to assist. He probably needs more practice with the genre. IMO the most compelling characters so far have been the MA's, then Ramonda.
No doubt. And if that's coate's prerogative with his selective ass story telling to emasculate and denigrate t'challa... i guess me droppin bars on the flipside will be my prerogative
Man, real spit:
- Bast (Panther God) let Doom walk right out with the vibranium instead of deading him right there. T'Challa had to clean up that mess and stopped Doom with an unfortunate sacrifice (*more on that later).
- Then b/c of T'Challa's great politics and management of wakanda's economy, they didn't suffer due to the loss of the vibranium b/c they were on stacks and stacks of trillions, and were still gettin residuals from USA and other countries for all the past business ventures
- The Namor flood was an L but BP wasn't king, and he wasn't king during Doom War either, but if he has to 'own that' fine, but guess what he did?
To be quite frank, ppl can be mad at BP if they want, and can nitpick any and all things. I completely understand. But I would also understand BP telling those people to STFU, with a "oh and you're welcome for me saving your asses" at the end.
- He dropped Namor down with Promixa Midnight, Thanos, the Cabal, & Maximus on a planet... and blew the cotdamn planet up. bbubut some 'duex ex machina' stuff happened in which they all got wished away to an alternative reality last second (that BP didn't even know about until after all of existence ended lol). Well thats comics for you, bc otherwise that shyt was thorough.
- Oh and that all of existence ending? Yea, T'Challa's plan brought that shyt back to existence. Oh and that vibranium* Bast let Doom walk away with? BP brought that shyt back and brought wakanda back top of the world, world leader in space exploration.
- And all that running around with the illuminati not tellin anyone? Yea sure, be mad at him, just don't forget to thank him for bringin yall back to existence
But that's why i couldn't write bp... everybody would know all the good he did, and he'd be movie t'challa but with a shyt list running 8 years long, wit every intention to set the record straight with some vibranium boots to the face.
lol i'm at work but when i get home i can cite these things if someone doesn't do it before.
i think Coates is overstating BP's failures in his run and downplaying his recent accomplishments to tell the story he wants to tell. Tho what i've been talkin about isn't truly about Coates. It's about all the thrill shyt BP has done
despite all the 
See here's where I disagree. Neither of those heroes have been made to look stupid in the face of a possible revolution that is part terrorist attack and part anti-patriarchy. Daredevils L's were and have constantly been ignored by Matt Murdock himself and Shadow land the culmination of those L's was a cop out because he was possessed. He didn’t have to be accountable. Spider-man's whole sthick is taking L's so that doesn't count. Another example of this though is Tony Stark post Secret Invasion. He wiped his own mind so that he didn't remember what he did so he wasn't held accountable. But BP has to sit here and be treated like a lost little boy.
lol i'm at work but when i get home i can cite these things if someone doesn't do it before.
when i start shootin at the hip i sometimes forget not everyone has read all the arcs/stories of the past 10-20 years
i think Coates is overstating BP's failures in his run and downplaying his recent accomplishments. Tho what i've been talkin about isn't truly about Coates. It's about all the thrill shyt BP has done
