Paid in Full Posse Appreciation Thread

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  1. mson

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    Paid in Full Posse

    This photograph was taken at the Jacob Javitz center in New York.

    Freddie Foxx is crouching down in front of Rakim behind the original 50 Cent.

    The spanish guy on the left hand side is Supreme Magnetic, a legendary hustler from Fort Greene in Brooklyn who, according to legend, was once knocked out by Jam Master Jay at Latin Quarter after he tried to snatch his chain.

    Killer Ben from Fort Greene is at the top in green. Rakim bigged him up on What’s On Your Mind.

    Kool G Rap is standing next to Rakim, Eric B is next to Supreme and I think that's his brother Rap on top right. I also think Bill Blass is sitting next to Rakim. I don't know who the dark skinned brother is.

    Edit: Identities answered



    -R 1st is Rap who has a brother name Supreme with the jewelry next is AJ from Queens and Rob Garcia from Long Island .. Middle row L-R is Eric-B, Jason Riley Rakim cousin, Rakim and Kool G Rap... Bottom row is L-R Keith"Money"Green from Long Island, Ant Live and The original 50 cent from Fort Greene.
     
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  2. mson

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    I don't know who all the people in the top photo are. I see Rakim, Eric B, and I think that's Erc B's brother Ant Live with the captain hat on.
     
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  3. livindajetlife

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    Lol this before my time.. pops was a rakim stan.. but idc what nobody say 80s fashion was like that lol them nigas was fly as shyt lol
     
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  4. mson

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    Yea they look tight. Your pops? How old are you?
     
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    21 mane
     
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    avon barksdale i want my corners

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  7. mson

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    Cool.
     
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    I wanted one of those Dapper Dan joints so bad when I was a kid, lol...
     
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    that nikka Killer Ben didn't fukk around

    it was rumored that he once used a 4 year old kid as a shield during a shootout in the project...thus influencing the popular scene in New Jack City
     
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    This picture has a shot of Eric B & Rakim with Alpo and Richard "Fritz" Simmons and some other guys. If some one has a clearer shot of this photo could they post it up.
     
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    Cover Story - Eric B. & Rakim's "Follow the Leader", with photography by Drew Car

    In the words of the photographer, Drew Carolan (interviewed December, 2007) –

    “I had photographed Eric and Ra for Interview in 1987 and, as an 'inner-city white kid on the hip-hop tip'*(Ed. - see translation, below), I was down with their first record, Paid in Full, as that was a big club record. I had worked with several artists at Def Jam - artists such as LL Cool J – and was already doing editorial pieces for magazines like Interview and SPIN.

    For a special Interview Christmas issue, I did a series of photographs which featured the best and brightest rap and hip-hop artists of the day, including Schooly D, Davy DMX, DJ Hurricane and Eric B and Rakim, and so when the Follow the Leader record was being put together Robert Smith, who was the creative director at UNI/MCA, called me to do the covers for the album and the 12-inch single. Robert knew me from the music biz as I was beginning to make packages which included photography and music videos for MCA R&B artists such as Brenda K. Starr and Bobby Brown. Initially, we met with Lyor Cohen and Bill Adler at the Def Jam offices down on Elizabeth Street. They just wanted to make sure that their artist would look as 'fly' as possible and, using the clothing designed by Dapper Dan, that wasn’t a hard thing to do.

    You have to understand that Eric is a large, quiet gentleman who does his talking by way of the turntables, whereas Rakim is a person as complex as his rhymes. The antithesis of Eric, Rakim is like caged heat waiting to boil over. His thoughts and feelings can be read on his face - but not for long. Like his lyrics, as soon as you think you have him sussed, he’s moved on. They were the perfect compliment for a brand of music that was both rhythmic and deep at a time when no one else was doing what they were doing. Essentially, they were leaders in the school of Rap - and they knew that - so there was no lack of confidence there.

    I thought it would be cool to shoot down by the bridges in Lower Manhattan since they represented the connections between the other boroughs and then beyond. The album and title track were called ‘Follow the Leader’, so basically I wanted to present the two of them as ‘leaders’. To do that, I’d shoot them from a low 'heroic' angle, being sure to incorporate the design of the car into the shot. I like to keep things graphic and minimal when it comes to design and I like to compose in camera as much as possible. The open sky allowed me to feature the artists against it and, since they were wearing dark clothes, it worked perfectly as a silhouette (so to speak), with the hint of the bridges augmenting the expanse and vibe of New York City.

    The morning light would make for a perfect set-up for this cover, so we timed the shoot that way. Photographers always love the early light and, being on the East side of town, we would have a window of opportunity until 10:30am and, after that, it was anybody’s guess.I had rented some 4 x 4 silver reflectors to bounce any ambient light around since the riverfront and the bridges could create lots of shadows and obstructions. On location for a shoot like this and on a limited budget, you have to be clever and economical with the way you work. My background working with several master photographers taught me how to deal with all of that. Annette Daniels was the stylist (she and I had worked on a bunch of project together. She was friends with Living Colour when I photographed them before they were signed and then again when I did the Vivid album photography, their 'Cult of Personality' video, and so on) and I had a couple of assistants with me to work the reflectors and call out the light readings but other than that the only other thing I needed was a ladder.
     
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  12. mson

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    Pt2

    Eric showed up with his crew driving a Rolls Royce of insane magnitude - the kind of vehicle that you look at, but certainly don’t touch. It was a dark burgundy with black trim and had lots of sexy curves to it. It brought the look of the area up to a whole new level. This was basically the Fulton Fish Market area, and when I think of that, I think of On the Waterfront and not about Rolls Royce’s.

    As the morning progressed, the light I was hoping for came and went and Rakim was nowhere to be found. This was before technology made someone just a phone call or a text message away. We were standing around in the 30-degree weather watching the winter light head towards New Jersey.

    As it turns out, Eric and Ra had done a performance at a fundraiser for Jesse Jackson (who was running for President in 1988) the night before at the Apollo Theater. Word from the inside was that there was a riff between the two that day and during the encore Rakim - the microphone fiend - walked off and left Eric on stage. They had not seen each other since the night before and now here we were on the album cover shoot, four hours behind schedule, in the icy cold and it was about to get colder. When you’re doing a shoot like this, the key to being a pro is to maintain your cool. This would be a test, no doubt.

    Rakim showed up driving his Mercedes and behind him were a slew of SUV’s carrying his posse. ‘At least he was here’ is what I figured. Now all we had to do was get an image that would work. The guys were already dressed, so that saved some time in the process. About the only thing that Rakim said to me was ‘How long is this going to take?…I got to get back to Queens!' Obviously there was something in Queens that was more important than this. I told Ra that we would get him out of there as soon as we possibly could.

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    I has already shot some singles of Eric leaning on his Rolls with the Brooklyn Bridge in the background. These looked good, so we added Rakim into the equation and worked quickly with the available light – which was heading West - and so Rakim could get back to Queens.

    I shot everything with my Hasselblad ELX with either a 50 or an 80 mm lens. At the end of the shoot both posse’s got together to pose for a group shot with Eric and Ra’s car pointing towards each other. I shot some with the Hassey and then fired off a roll with my motorized Nikon FM. All the film was Ekatchrome transparency 100 pushed a stop.

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    I edited the work down to my top choices (keeping a wide range, but weeding out the obvious) and sent them to Robert. He then worked with my friend - designer Carla Davis - on the layout and the lettering. I didn’t see anything again until it was finished but honestly, with Robert and Carla working together, I knew they would make the best image possible. As it turned out, the label was happy, I was pleased, and Rakim made it back to Queens with time to spare. At the time, I knew the record was ground-breaking just because of the samples being used and the flow of the rhymes. I never anticipated the amount of recognition the record has received over the years, so that is naturally very pleasing.

    You know, I thought it was really dope that these guys were willing to turn their backs to the camera for the cover shot. The concept was that if you are following the leader, this is what you’d see - their backs. As Rakim says on the record...’A lot of you wondering why the album was late? I was giving you time to get the last one straight...’ Check the words...”

    * - It means that I was from deep in the bowels of the city (Lower East side) and "tip" as in tipped off to something new,
     
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  13. Rakim Allah

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    Thanks 4 this!!
     
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    Props on the info...But I dont remember caring to much about the 'no names' from that "Paid In Full" cover even if they were street affiliated in the lat 80's no one knew who they were.


    Me personally I was more interested in what were the names of the unfamiliar faces from the NWA and The Posse album cover. Thanx to the internet and google I finally know.
     
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    the Golden era :ahh:
     

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