Discussion in 'The Ring' started by hyperman25, Jan 5, 2017.
What big fights for roy couldn't be made because of arum and king?
The British super middleweights like Benn, Collins, & Eubanks has US deals with King. Julian Jackson & Gerald Mccellan had deals with King. Michaelewski check my spelling had a US deal with Arum. Everyone else Roy fought. What I mean by US deal is they fought in their country with their promoters but if they came to the US they had to give them a piece.
Like when Manny fought Margarito, Roy made beating Ruiz look easy but taking punches from fighters 20-30 lbs bigger than you is dangerous. Fighting at heavyweight was not an option. He should have made Tarver come to cruiserweight for the second fight or fight another cruiserweight.
No he should fought Tarver the first fight at CW, that's what ruined him the most, because he didn't lose the weight properly. Roy basically said he just ran the weight off to make the weight, similar to what Chris Byrd did when he dropped down to LHW. RJJ didn't want to pay Mackie Shilstone the extra money for the first Tarver fight so he looked like sh!t and barely won. Roy went back to Mackie for Tarver 2 but the damage was already done from the first fight trying to make weight.
Here's an interview that I posted on this site a few times stating the facts about the damage weight lost can do from Mackie Shilstone who has also worked with Michael Spinks and Benard Hopkins as well. Recently worked with Ward.
Click the link for full interview:
BOXINGTALK : EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: MACKIE SHILSTONE
Roy didn't have Al Haymon, that is the sole reason why he never got to where Floyd did beign a superior fighter IMHO
Roy Jones vs Julian Jackson
King wanted Roy to sign with him and drop his whole team to get a fight with Jackson
wat? u mean roy
Yeah I meant Roy let me fix that
The last two decades PPV kings except heavyweights were all directly from Bob Arum which isn't a coincidence.
Don't know why he didn't use the Toney fight
He could of definitely used Toney and Reggie Johnson fights. There are many fights that could of been used.