The Coli's dark secret no one talks about: Kyrie and B. Knight are essentially the same players

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

Just like they were in high school.

Just like they were in college.

Same remains in the NBA.

I could lost post stats to prove this, but given my reputation, I shouldn't have to.

Bottomline: Brandon Knight has worked at his game at a high level since he's been in the league. Kyrie Irving has not. Their career trajectories have relefcted this, as Brandon is still ascending and Kyrie has plateaued since his rookie season.

Milwaukee essentially stole Brandon Knight from the Pistons.

I know you'll ignore this thread or come in hollering bullsh*t that doesn't matter, but these are the facts. Both are score first PGs who are solid but not spectacular playmakers. Kyrie is currently the better scorer, but not by much. Brandon is the better defender and leader.

The fact Kyrie Irving will be a max contract player going forward while Brandon Knight will be lucky to get 10 mill a year deal is OUTRIGHT laughable to me.

Again... this thread is another 'FACTS ONLY PRODUCTION'. I dont give a sh*t if you disagree. Show me stats proving I'm wrong. If this current Cavs team had Brandon Knight instead of Kyrie Irving, they would be no worse of a team.

 

[Detroit Wave]

Can't even argue this after checking the stats

 

[a murda]

:scust86::scust86: they not the same kyrie still have his soul

 

[SchoolboyC]

Ironic that you say at the end of your post that this is based only on factual production but you bring up that Knight is a better leader than Kyrie as if that isn't a 100% subjective claim.

As far as their skillsets being comparable, sure. But I don't think there's a single team, including Milwaukee, that would rather have Knight over Kyrie.

As far as the stats go
2011-12: Kyrie (21.4 PER), Knight (11.7 PER)
2012-13: Kyrie (21.4 PER), Knight (12.0 PER)
2013-14: Kyrie (20.1 PER), Knight (16.5 PER)
2014-15: Kyrie (20.7 PER), Knight (18.8 PER)

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Brandon Knight is hella underrated. He was slept on due to the other Calipari PG's like Rose, Wall, and Tyreke and he unfortunately got turned into a punch line in his NBA career for trying to make a defensive play.

He's been one of the best offseason pickups lowkey

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

 

[Brozay]

Every team in the league would take Kyrie though ... so

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Every team in the league would take Kyrie though ... so

What if you not a fan of no defense playing PG's that don't pass the ball?

 

[Raquinotj]

1 Star Thread....

 

[SchoolboyC]

What if you not a fan of no defense playing PG's that don't pass the ball?

But this thread is comparing Kyrie to Brandon Knight not Kyrie to Mike Conley

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

brandon knight has been having a fantastic year, hits big shots when they need them, but i think kyrie is still better

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

A more accurate comparison: Dion Waiters and Bojan Bogdanovic are essentially the same player -

Waiters: 9.3 ppg on 39% shooting, 2.1 apg, 3.1 rpg and 1.2 tpg
Bogdanovic: 9.1 ppg on 42% shooting, 0.9apg, 3.0 rpg and 1.1 tpg

I know you'll ignore this @Eye Cue 182 or come in hollering bullsh*t that doesn't matter, but these are the facts. Bottomline: Bojan Bogdanovic has worked at his game at a high level since he's been in the league. Dion Waiters has not. Their career trajectories have relefcted this, as Bojan is still ascending and Waiters has plateaued since his rookie season. Again... this post is another 'FACTS ONLY PRODUCTION'. I dont give a sh*t if you disagree. Show me stats proving I'm wrong. If this current Cavs team had Bojan Bogdanovic instead of Dion Waiters, they would be no worse of a team.

 

[Brozay]

A more accurate comparison: Dion Waiters and Bojan Bogdanovic are essentially the same player -

Waiters: 9.3 ppg on 39% shooting, 2.1 apg, 3.1 rpg and 1.2 tpg
Bogdanovic: 9.1 ppg on 42% shooting, 0.9apg, 3.0 rpg and 1.1 tpg

I know you'll ignore this @Eye Cue 182 or come in hollering bullsh*t that doesn't matter, but these are the facts. Bottomline: Bojan Bogdanovic has worked at his game at a high level since he's been in the league. Dion Waiters has not. Their career trajectories have relefcted this, as Bojan is still ascending and Waiters has plateaued since his rookie season. Again... this post is another 'FACTS ONLY PRODUCTION'. I dont give a sh*t if you disagree. Show me stats proving I'm wrong. If this current Cavs team had Bojan Bogdanovic instead of Dion Waiters, they would be no worse of a team.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

But this thread is comparing Kyrie to Brandon Knight not Kyrie to Mike Conley

Brandon Knight is a good point guard though. Kyrie is better but Knight has made some huge improvements and is on his way to All-Star/elite PG level.

Calipari's system knows good point guards.

 

[jaguar paw]

A more accurate comparison: Dion Waiters and Bojan Bogdanovic are essentially the same player -

Waiters: 9.3 ppg on 39% shooting, 2.1 apg, 3.1 rpg and 1.2 tpg
Bogdanovic: 9.1 ppg on 42% shooting, 0.9apg, 3.0 rpg and 1.1 tpg

I know you'll ignore this @Eye Cue 182 or come in hollering bullsh*t that doesn't matter, but these are the facts. Bottomline: Bojan Bogdanovic has worked at his game at a high level since he's been in the league. Dion Waiters has not. Their career trajectories have relefcted this, as Bojan is still ascending and Waiters has plateaued since his rookie season. Again... this post is another 'FACTS ONLY PRODUCTION'. I dont give a sh*t if you disagree. Show me stats proving I'm wrong. If this current Cavs team had Bojan Bogdanovic instead of Dion Waiters, they would be no worse of a team.

I hate you. I couldn't get to my calculators fast enough.