15 years ago, Kobe Bryant could not be stopped

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Kobe was stopped in that pistons finals game though,lol. But Kobe is a beast .
 

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And Kobe is more efficient than Westbrook, so if Westbrook was putting up those poor shooting numbers, while averaging 10+ assists and rebound, what do you think Kobe is going to do when his main objective is to shoot?:russ:isnt that y’all argument against Kobe? Efficiency. Now % is irrelevant.:russ:this era is clearly more softer than the 00 was, especially on defense and don’t tell me about no zone defense cause like I said, An old Kobe on bad knees this decade put up numbers against that very zone D. A younger Kobe takes advantage of that. Period. You know exactly what I’m talking about too so stop playing obtuse.
There is nothing obtuse about thinking that Kobe played too recently for this "get off my lawn" rhetoric.

Players dictate the game. Guys like Curry and Durant do what they do because their skillset. Kobe played the way that worked best for him.

shyt, Jerry Stackhouse scored a ton of points on garbage efficiency during Kobe's run, why aren't you talking about what a beast he would be now?
 

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There is nothing obtuse about thinking that Kobe played too recently for this "get off my lawn" rhetoric.

Players dictate the game. Guys like Curry and Durant do what they do because their skillset. Kobe played the way that worked best for him.

shyt, Jerry Stackhouse scored a ton of points on garbage efficiency during Kobe's run, why aren't you talking about what a beast he would be now?

Cause nobody asked that’s why, and Kobe this decade was older with a bunch of injury’s. Out of the 9 years of this decade starting fo m 2010. Kobe was only healthy 3 out of those years and just barely that so I don’t know why you keep obtuse about that. Certain aspects of The game even in 2010 is far different than in 2018 and you talking about “he just retired” as if the man ain’t tear his freaking ACL, along with other injuries at a older age and retired 2 years before he turned 40. :russ:
 

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Cause nobody asked that’s why, and Kobe this decade was older with a bunch of injury’s. Out of the 9 years of this decade starting fo m 2010. Kobe was only healthy 3 out of those years and just barely that so I don’t know why you keep obtuse about that. Certain aspects of The game even in 2010 is far different than in 2018 and you talking about “he just retired” as if the man ain’t tear his freaking ACL, along with other injuries at a older age and retired 2 years before he turned 40. :russ:
Because the arguments you're making aren't limited to Kobe, they suggest that everyone from 10 years ago would eat better now. I don't agree. Kobe played the super point guard role that guys are playing now and saved most of the shots for himself. He would not have been any different in today's game.
 

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Because the arguments you're making aren't limited to Kobe, they suggest that everyone from 10 years ago would eat better now. I don't agree. Kobe played the super point guard role that guys are playing now and saved most of the shots for himself. He would not have been any different in today's game.
But this thread is about Kobe, your argument is about Kobe. Your still goalpost moving cause nobody suggested anybody other than Kobe from that era would benefit today. Nowhere In my posts did you get that and it’s a mute/irrelevant point to our argument anyways cause the “*insert player from past* would do such and such in such and such era” has been done on here before and you know it. Nobody in this thread said Kobe would be a transform into a entirely different player either, only that he would score more points and beast, which he would of.
 

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But this thread is about Kobe, your argument is about Kobe. Your still goalpost moving cause nobody suggested anybody other than Kobe from that era would benefit today. Nowhere In my posts did you get that and it’s a mute/irrelevant point to our argument anyways cause the “*insert player from past* would do such and such in such and such era” has been done on here before and you know it. Nobody in this thread said Kobe would be a transform into a entirely different player either, only that he would score more points and beast, which he would of.
Its nothing personal against Kobe, I think just about all of the "_____ would have dominated even more in a different year" arguments are idealistic bullshyt.
 

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3 of those 4 dubs came with Shaq.
And we all know Shaq commands all attention on the court. No matter how much you guys are in denial about it.

Kobe was the best player on the court in all 4 wins...that ain't opinion, it's fact

Pop knows who the Spurs killer is
 

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that is so impressive. and even better than this is the fact that michael jordan nearly averaged that for an entire season and in an era where the defense was superior, damn, kobe was alright, but michael jordan was and will always be the goat in my eyes and the eyes of any true basketball fan.
 

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No need for the straw man argument. Kobe wasn't shackled by the era he played in. He got to jack shots without consequence in the middle of his prime. What more would 2017 have done for him when in his own era, he still shot 20-25% more often than Westbrook or Durant do in the current era?
I think there being more three point shooters in this era. It would help open the lane for him a lot more. Mainly the emergence of a lot more stretch 4s and how even below average 3 point shooters are encouraged to fire them up. We never got to really see Kobe ever play surrounded by shooters and without a clogged paint. With that said I agree with asking who gives a fukk either way. He had a great career that can be left where it was.
 
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