18 Months Later: Drake Still The Laughing Stock In America

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I used to think he could avoid interviews… he might actually have to do one. This is…bad.

But…theres so many bombshells he has to avoid being asked about and I’m not talking about rap shyt. Theres a BUNCH of non-music shyt that are landmines for him.

It. Is. Bad.
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:damn:Get Bobbi on the phone now!!!!
 

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I used to think he could avoid interviews… he might actually have to do one. This is…bad.

But…theres so many bombshells he has to avoid being asked about and I’m not talking about rap shyt. Theres a BUNCH of non-music shyt that are landmines for him.

It. Is. Bad.
Like LeBron, his interviews will always be on his terms and strategically done, that’s why Bobbi Althoff is his go-to.
 
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Like LeBron, his interviews will always be on his terms and strategically done, that’s why Bobbi Althoff is his go-to.

He should do what Bron is doing....just start a show and get people on he fukks with and talk openly about shyt just not Bobbi again.
 

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Why are we talking about an album that dropped AFTER the retirement? What are we talking about here? Leading up to the Black Album. Nas dropped better music. Both God’s Son and Lost Tapes. We are talking about Jay announcing retirement to gain back favor after he lost. What u are doing is moving goal posts. Cause what happened AFTER that has nothing to do with the reasoning. And I like Black Album over Blueprint. Also. HHID >>> Kingdom Come. Jay didn’t drop shyt in 04 and 05. So again. What are we saying? American Gangster was borderline classic. Yes. But he was hit or miss too. Cause u may not think Untitled was better than BP3 which I think it clearly is. Distant Relatives DEFINITELY is better without question. And both are better than Magna Carta. Jay fortunate he got WTT in between that time honestly. But LIG >>> MCHG, WTT, and 4:44. We not finna sit here and play my guy

I'm making two points. First I can't clown a line on What More Can I Say when that album was clearly better than Nas' recent output up to that point. He went out dropping a classic. The second point was that when he came back he secured a legacy with a new generation at the very same time that Nas was getting clowned for bad beats, meh albums, etc. Virtually every negative Nas argument you hear, besides the "real rap" dudes who been mad since 1996, is heavily based on 2002-2010. God's Son had detractors. The Def Jam albums were heavily clowned until LIG. All while Jay rewrote history.

I remember when that single from KC came out, the Rick James flip. I was on SOHH, pretty sure you were too. EVERYONE was going insane. I vividly remember that shyt because I must have played the track 10 times that night, and I was not a big Jay fan at the time. I actually thought the album wasn't bad but obviously that's a very minority opinion. It was wack to most people.
 

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Not to be that guy but to be fair The Black Album was such a massive hit and classic album that nobody listened to that shyt thinking "lol he still mad about losing to Nas." If anything Jay laid out a perfect blueprint for Drake on how to respond: make better music. Jay clearly made better music than Nas at that time.

I thought Drake was going to try to do that. GNX is dope but could Drake have made a better album? Sure, potentially. But he didn't try and is spiraling now.

Nah he didnt
 

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Nas made better (studio album) music with God's Son compared to BP2. That was literally the last time he did that until what, 2012? SD came out a year after The Black Album and sounded terrible in comparison. I'm not even a fan of AG but it's objectively better than the Def Jam Nas albums from around that era (HHID, Untitled). By far.

This is literally the string of albums/time that separated them as artists in the minds of a lot of people. It's the period that popularized (not birthed) the talking points about beat selection. It caused an entire generation of kids to grow up thinking Jay was better, bigger, etc. I'm not saying I agree with that conclusion, I'm just saying it was a rough time to be a fan and Nas didn't truly get back to greatness until 2012.

I remember when What More Can I Say came out. Granted I wasn't in NY but that shyt was a massive "he's back" track to everyone I knew, rap forums, etc. Virtually every track we heard before the album dropped (except Change Clothes) was crazy. It was an undeniable classic record and that's when the pendulum swung. I vividly remember "wait until Nas responds to this shyt" sentiment because that's the timing I was on. And then we got Street's Disciple...

First of all hip is dead was better than kingdom come and untitled and distant relatives are better than American gangster ill take SD over the black album too
 
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