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What does that have to do with what these men do? They are on a street corner screaming and acting crazy. Not in a place of worship.

Well, you just stated Jesus didn't go around 'screaming' like they do, and I showed you where Jesus was tossing over tables and kicking wicked men out of the house of prayer. Contrary to what is taught, Jesus AND his disciples were not to played with in any manner. Now if you're going to say teaching on a street corner is wrong, then let's address that.

Acts 7:48

48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,

because

Matthew 18:20

20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

They are gathered in the name of the Most High, so it is church. Plus, disciples were commanded to go out and teach the people.

Luke 14:23

23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
 

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What does that have to do with what these men do? They are on a street corner screaming and acting crazy. Not in a place of worship.

Don't waste your time arguing with dude. He is delusional. I can cut him up like crazy on those passages he listed (as I've done in the past), but he will still reject the truth. Even if I personally take him into the original Greek and Hebrew to prove him wrong.

He doesn't actually read the bible. He only parrots the teachings of the street preachers he watches on Youtube.
 
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Well, you just stated Jesus didn't go around 'screaming' like they do, and I showed you where Jesus was tossing over tables and kicking wicked men out of the house of prayer. Contrary to what is taught, Jesus AND his disciples were not to played with in any manner. Now if you're going to say teaching on a street corner is wrong, then let's address that.

Acts 7:48

48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,

because

Matthew 18:20

20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

They are gathered in the name of the Most High, so it is church. Plus, disciples were commanded to go out and teach the people.

Luke 14:23

23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.

I just can't get behind guys that act like thugs with the bible
 

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@Will Ross ignore that lame. It's a waste of time. Dude is too dumb to realize what you're saying. He's been killed countless times in debates on this site.

He's not even a member of any camp(cult). He simply stans them. Seriously.

He sits on Youtube all day and parrots their teachings. He's a troll.
 

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gms cats are cult like, but the san frans dudes drop gems....if those dudes could ever break that spell and do their own thing theyll be good
 

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Listen man, this is what it is. Before I go into it though, most Israelite camps don't mess with GMS like that. They are like the black sheep of Israel, even though depending on the camp, they DO have alot of knowledge regarding the scriptures and history. With that said, they aren't out here raping women, nor young girls. What they are saying is that if you go into the original Hebrew on that scripture, then the word that is used is basically means 'by force' as opposed to another way.I haven't checked on that myself, so I'm going to go off the KJV itself. Now, we don't live the way we did back in times past, but the scripture is saying if you find a woman, and she's not promised to any man nor married, you can 'take' her to be yours. Obviously if a woman becomes yours, you're going to have sex, that's a given. But this verse isn't referring to just sex, it's referring to her being claimed as yours. It's not saying 'rape' is okay. While that's what they got out of the scripture, it's not what it's saying. Let's look at the verses

28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his day

This is the verse that is telling us that a man has to marry the woman after they have sex because nobody is going to want her after that, and he can't leave her for a frivolous reason. To back up the fact rape is not permissible, a few verses up tells us this.


25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:

26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
See? In this verse, if a man forced a woman to have sex and she's attached to someone, the man has to die and the woman is innocent. Notice the word force in verse 25 and not in 28. Verse 28 is her agreeing to the sex essentially. If she's with somebody and she willingly has sex with someone else, they BOTH must die. Now, some people might say, well maybe 28 is referring to forcing her and it's okay because she's not with anybody, but it's really just talking about taking her virginity and her being down with it. I see how they can gather that from the scriptures, but that's off and most Israelites don't condone that line of thinking. Either way, they aren't saying to go out and rape anyone, and especially in today's society.

But let's look at it another way. Let's say verse 28 IS referring to rape. The Bible damn sure isn't 'condoning' it, which is the reason he has to pay her father and marry her. The age thing that Polight was trying to push to demonize them is BS because people were getting married off and having kids not long after the female having their period, and this was NORMAL PRACTICE. Don't let the way society is todaycloud your vision of what's necessarily right or wrong. Physically, men and women are ready for sex at puberty, which is around the age of 12. It's ALWAYS been this way. Proof of this:

1 Corinthians 7:36

36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.
I CRACK HEBREW ISRAELITE JOKES A LOT BUT I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM HERE.

DAP FOR THE ESSAY BREH.
 
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