1v1 is not real basketbal

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We literally grew up playing 1 on 1 long before we wetr playing 5 on 5 and only on the coli are dudes trying tp bullshyt and say its not real.

Exactly they’re downplaying the value of 1 on 1 because in today’s NBA with the softer rules and players surrounded by shooters, the 1 on 1 skillset isn’t as valuable. Someone like Iverson who was on teams without shooters and playing during 90s and 2000s physicality had to have an elite 1 on 1 skillset to become a superstar given his size and surrounding talent.
 

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Iso scoring ≠ one on one

in a team game, even if you get a defender on a island you still have to be aware of your spacing as to know when and where help defense is going to come from. You dont hone that skill in 1s.
You’re not wrong there’s truth in this. But none is saying don’t know how to play in an actual game. You absolutely learn about spacing and where to attack and how to pull up and how to react to different looks by playing ones. Three dribble ones are the GOAT at progressing your individual game. That absolutely carries over to game speed
 

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You’re not wrong there’s truth in this. But none is saying don’t know how to play in an actual game. You absolutely learn about spacing and where to attack and how to pull up and how to react to different looks by playing ones. Three dribble ones are the GOAT at progressing your individual game. That absolutely carries over to game speed
You learn aspects of it for sure. 1s teaches fundamentals on footwork, picking and attacking a spot, creating space between a defender, using that space to create optimal shot (ideally a face up), just all the basic to intermediate tools of scoring.

Fostering those skills AND THEN maintaining that high solo scoring performance in 3's and 5's ON TOP of honing spatial awareness to know when help is coming, to not be crowding another teammates space, to move without the ball, to split a double team or throw to a flashing man/cutter is where the expert level of offense starts.

You see this all the time in LA Fitness type of runs where during 5's, most runs are playing man d and nobody is playing help and you got a large percentage of guys who look really good when theres no help defense and their teammates have cleared the paint and perimeter. But that lack of skill (and honestly, capability) in dissecting zones and knowing where your teammates are going to be when defenses shift is what separates good players from greats, just my two cents.
 

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why do you guys think Michael Jordan was an unbeatable Super Saiyan?

There were absolutely guys that he was contemporaries of that did beat him in 1v1. They were faster or stronger or just had a hot hand that day.

Doesn’t mean they were better overall players than Jordan.
This 1 on 1 thing is just some faux masculinity bullshyt lol

And this is coming from someone who wouldn’t mind a 1-on-1 tournament as part of All-Star weekend

1-on-1 is great practice, it’s a great drill, for competitiveness, for individual skills, and especially for cardio and it’s better when done with limited dribble but it’s just that a drill. Naismith meant for basketball to be played 5-on-5 and it was meant to be a physical education game up and down with motion, passing, cutting

And yeah when we’re talking about pros it can come down to who got ball first or who had the hot hand that day

These guys are fukking machines that don’t miss people don’t understand this
 
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Exactly they’re downplaying the value of 1 on 1 because in today’s NBA with the softer rules and players surrounded by shooters, the 1 on 1 skillset isn’t as valuable. Someone like Iverson who was on teams without shooters and playing during 90s and 2000s physicality had to have an elite 1 on 1 skillset to become a superstar given his size and surrounding talent.
Who said the 1 on 1 skillset isn’t valuable in today’s NBA? :skip:

There’s guards today who are more skilled 1 on 1 than Iverson.
 

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The OP was about one on one by itself, not within the context of a game.
and then the conversation evolved. But to make it clear...1 on 1 within the game...offensive players have the advantage. Outside of the game...offensive players have the advantage (and even more meaningless)
 
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