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It’s been 20 years since 2000. What is your opinion on that decade of ball?
2 decades later:. What is your opinion on 2000s era basketball? (2000-2009)
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murksiderock
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Worst in overall quality of play since the 70s. But also nostalgic because I grew up in that era so it'll always appeal for me emotionally, I'm a 00s baby...
The 10s were markedly better and more competitive across the board and I think we all should admit that while all the shyt obviously counts, guys who succeeded in the 00s were playing in perhaps the weakest era of the modern era, if we start the modern era post-merger (1976-77). And that's on both sides of the bracket, let's all stop pretending the 00s West wasn't just mostly incredibly Top heavy and teams like the Warriors and Clippers who were annually awful didn't exist...
The 10s were markedly better and more competitive across the board and I think we all should admit that while all the shyt obviously counts, guys who succeeded in the 00s were playing in perhaps the weakest era of the modern era, if we start the modern era post-merger (1976-77). And that's on both sides of the bracket, let's all stop pretending the 00s West wasn't just mostly incredibly Top heavy and teams like the Warriors and Clippers who were annually awful didn't exist...
PortCityProphet
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Goat era
Early 2000s was great basketball... if you were watching the top teams of the Western Conference. It was rough watching games be like 78-75. And it wasn’t because it was great defense either. There was a lot of bad offense. Rule changes, the talent infusion from the 2003 draft (as well as Dwight, CP3, and D-Will the next two years), and the 2005 Suns (and their influence for other teams to play faster in the future) made it more interesting the second half of the decade.
Fortunate Lee
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1 decade later*
Some fantastic athletes came of age in the early and mid 2000s. The game was becoming far too clogged up to make for a great product so the rules changes that were made that paved the way for the spacing and ball movement later on were necessary.
Maybe some could argue that the "meta" of the game has shifted too much, but that's the ebb and flow of it.
Nostalgia always overrates the good times and downplays the bad.
I'm not sure I miss the era so much as I just miss seeing some of that individual talent performing on an individual level.
If the idea is...man, I wish I could watch Shaq dominate or Kobe score or Tim control both sides of the floor or McGrady fly to the rim....I mean in a vacuum, all that sounds great.
Do I want to go back and see a bunch of NBA Finals series where teams struggled to crack 90 points? Not really.
Maybe some could argue that the "meta" of the game has shifted too much, but that's the ebb and flow of it.
Nostalgia always overrates the good times and downplays the bad.
I'm not sure I miss the era so much as I just miss seeing some of that individual talent performing on an individual level.
If the idea is...man, I wish I could watch Shaq dominate or Kobe score or Tim control both sides of the floor or McGrady fly to the rim....I mean in a vacuum, all that sounds great.
Do I want to go back and see a bunch of NBA Finals series where teams struggled to crack 90 points? Not really.
I'm indifferent to it. There was good mostly in the west conference with individual players like Kobe, Mac and teams like the Lakers, Kings, Mavs, Suns, etc..... On the other hand, there was some bad basketball.
At that time I remember people trashing that era. Folks going in on iso ball, saying players weren't able to shoot and other things. I agree with @Remote I miss the individual players but I don't miss that era. Personally I prefer the 2010-2016 era
At that time I remember people trashing that era. Folks going in on iso ball, saying players weren't able to shoot and other things. I agree with @Remote I miss the individual players but I don't miss that era. Personally I prefer the 2010-2016 era
murksiderock
Superstar
People always trash shyt as it happens then years down the road it gets glorified. They doing the same thing with 00s hip hop now too, in real time cats were all "hip hop is dead" but these cats born from the late 90s and after love 00s hip hop, and many if us who were around back then and trashed it now talk about how dope it was in comparison to today's hip hop...
Early 00s (00-04) had great individual talent but the rules/strategy of that period made it harder (particularly perimeter players) to showcase their ability in ways that earlier and especially later periods could. The West was loaded with great teams but the East was bad with no legit contenders outside Pistons in 04 which is closer to mid 00s anyway. The product was okay, the game was too congested & slow paced for most of the talent to showcase themselves unfortunately
Mid 00s (05-07) had the rule changes to open the game up and the numbers reflected that. The conference disparity was still there but the East had two legit contenders in 05 in Miami/Detroit, and they were still strong in 06 (that Pistons squad was a strong RS team but lost the defensive identity of the 04/05 variants) with of course Miami winning in 06. Product was a lot better but I'm not so sure if the talent was that much better, everyone looks better in space which was the point of opening the game up then and now
Late 00s (08 & 09, but honestly it's hard not to group 10 as being part of this period) had a more balanced league with the Big 3 Celtics being way better than any other East team from this 00s (and arguably this entire century), Magic and Cavs were also up there. West was still strong. This period along with 10-14 were the most exciting years to watch basketball since I started watching. The only real knock is big man quality going down but honestly big man quality hasn't been good until very recently, and some of that came with making the league more perimeter friendly, it's a zero sum game
I loved the late 00s (and early 10s) from a pure entertainment/talent standpoint, that definitely gives the decade a boost for me. I don't care too much for the product beforehand other than the standout individuals like Kobe/Shaq/Duncan/Dirk/KG/etc which is as strong of a collective as any decade
Mid 00s (05-07) had the rule changes to open the game up and the numbers reflected that. The conference disparity was still there but the East had two legit contenders in 05 in Miami/Detroit, and they were still strong in 06 (that Pistons squad was a strong RS team but lost the defensive identity of the 04/05 variants) with of course Miami winning in 06. Product was a lot better but I'm not so sure if the talent was that much better, everyone looks better in space which was the point of opening the game up then and now
Late 00s (08 & 09, but honestly it's hard not to group 10 as being part of this period) had a more balanced league with the Big 3 Celtics being way better than any other East team from this 00s (and arguably this entire century), Magic and Cavs were also up there. West was still strong. This period along with 10-14 were the most exciting years to watch basketball since I started watching. The only real knock is big man quality going down but honestly big man quality hasn't been good until very recently, and some of that came with making the league more perimeter friendly, it's a zero sum game
I loved the late 00s (and early 10s) from a pure entertainment/talent standpoint, that definitely gives the decade a boost for me. I don't care too much for the product beforehand other than the standout individuals like Kobe/Shaq/Duncan/Dirk/KG/etc which is as strong of a collective as any decade
2000s the west dominated and the Celtics were poised 2 3peet at the end of the decade befoee kg got hurt
Old heads trashed 2000s hip-hop. Those of us growing up then loved it.
Your sports and hip hop takes are so white. Why you even here? You would fit much better on predominantly cac sites like realgm or reddit.
GOAT era in NBA history. We've never a higher concentration of talent. Athleticism was at its all-time high. Individual skill sets were also at their peak. And the brand of basketball was the most grimey in NBA history. Only real nikkas prospered then.
Early 2000s = the most beautiful era of NBA basketball to watch