Mr Uncle Leroy
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2015 Democratic Debate (Las Vegas): Who is winning?
Seems Bernie and Hillary are running close...
Seems Bernie and Hillary are running close...
2015 Democratic Debate (Las Vegas): Who is winning?
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KiD WavE
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Lincoln Chafee the gawd is the most entertaining
why you repeal the glass steagal act ?
"well it was my First vote
my dad JUST died
well like I said it was my first vote
and my dad just died
"
bernie is winning tho
why you repeal the glass steagal act ?
"well it was my First vote
my dad JUST died
well like I said it was my first vote
and my dad just died
"bernie is winning tho
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
Well, the working class sure isn't
Hillary has cooper and the audience on her side
sanders had some gaffes but is still doing well
he's honest
Clinton is very polished tho and it shows
she's also a flopper so I don't trust her
but she's doing a good job seeming genuine
sanders had some gaffes but is still doing well
he's honest
Clinton is very polished tho and it shows
she's also a flopper so I don't trust her
but she's doing a good job seeming genuine
Misanthrope
None of the above '16
Webb gotta go after this.
Chaffee gotta go after this.
O'Malley at least should make it to debate #2.
Sanders worked the base and looked like a real human who believed his positions.
Clinton looked like a real politician and answered almost nothing, but looked bossy while dodging it.
Chaffee gotta go after this.
O'Malley at least should make it to debate #2.
Sanders worked the base and looked like a real human who believed his positions.
Clinton looked like a real politician and answered almost nothing, but looked bossy while dodging it.
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Hillary won by a comfortable margin. Sanders was very iffy in the beginning, repeating himself, accusing others of raising their voice (
), referring to himself in third person. None of the candidates really pulled her card successfully on foreign policy or her being buddied up with Wall Street.
O'Malley probably had some of the best returns from this debate; making a case for a cabinet or VP position (it'll still probably be Castro for the latter).
), referring to himself in third person. None of the candidates really pulled her card successfully on foreign policy or her being buddied up with Wall Street. O'Malley probably had some of the best returns from this debate; making a case for a cabinet or VP position (it'll still probably be Castro for the latter).
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
Every online poll, hundreds of thousands of votes has Bernie with a huge victory, in the 60-80% range overall.
Meanwhile every media outlet, even "progressive" sites like Salon and Politico (other than TYT) is reporting that Hilary dominated and won easily. Some cited polls from "insiders" for reasoning...
Things that make you go hmm
Meanwhile every media outlet, even "progressive" sites like Salon and Politico (other than TYT) is reporting that Hilary dominated and won easily. Some cited polls from "insiders" for reasoning...
Things that make you go hmm
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
Hillary made a joke about piss.
These presidential debates are superficial as fukk and are all about image and optics so based on that criteria here is how I saw the debate:
Clinton did well and looked the most like someone who could actually be president.
Bernie was Bernie which is always a good thing and works for those who already like him but he didn't look or sound like someone who I could envision the majority of this country voting into the Oval Office.
O'Malley was just middle of the road which is not good enough because he needed to have a "Moment" last night to pull his campaign out of the single digits.
Webb was grumpy as fukk.
Chafee deaded himself with that whining about his dad dying and his being new in the Senate so he just voted for something he had no idea about. The clock is ticking on his campaign and I doubt we see him in the next debate.
Clinton did well and looked the most like someone who could actually be president.
Bernie was Bernie which is always a good thing and works for those who already like him but he didn't look or sound like someone who I could envision the majority of this country voting into the Oval Office.
O'Malley was just middle of the road which is not good enough because he needed to have a "Moment" last night to pull his campaign out of the single digits.
Webb was grumpy as fukk.
Chafee deaded himself with that whining about his dad dying and his being new in the Senate so he just voted for something he had no idea about. The clock is ticking on his campaign and I doubt we see him in the next debate.
¢apitali$t Migraine
Kneel Before Zod, Muthafücka
My Way News - AP FACT CHECK: Clinton, Sanders revise history in Dem debate
SANDERS: "I'm a goddamn conman. I mean, make every public college and university in this country tuition-free."
CLINTON: "Vote for me because I am a woman and we already had a Black guy as president. But on a lighter note, my plan would enable anyone to go to a public college or university tuition-free. You would not have to borrow money for tuition."
THE FACTS: Free for the students, but someone has to pay.
Clinton and Sanders both would shift more college costs onto taxpayers and away from parents and students.
Sanders' plan would cover tuition and fees at public universities — a $70 billion annual expense with the federal government picking up two-thirds of that tab by taxing trading in the financial markets.
Students would still be on the hook for room and board costs that average $9,804, according to the College Board.
The Clinton plan is bound to cost more than the $35 billion per year over 10 years projected by her campaign. This is because more students would probably switch to public universities on the potential to graduate without debt, raising costs for the government and potentially leaving many modestly endowed private institutions in the lurch.
The potential of a debt-free education would also depend on states providing reliable money streams and controlling costs — both major sources of uncertainty. But the Clinton plan would also expose a sharp generational divide. New college students would be helped, but the 40 million Americans who already owe a combined $1.2 trillion in education debt would receive little aid other than refinancing at lower rates.
Neither candidate told TV viewers about the costs to the treasury of what they propose.
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SANDERS: "What we need to do is ... raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour."
THE FACTS: That might boost pay for many workers, but as with college tuition, there's a cost: His plan would probably cause many low-wage employers to outsource or automate some jobs.
Economists have long debated the impact of raising the minimum wage, and some recent research has found that modest increases don't actually cost many jobs. But a jump to $15 an hour would be more than double the federal minimum of $7.25. It would also be far above the minimum wage's previous peak of just under $11, adjusted for inflation, in 1968.
And a $15 minimum wage is above the median wage in eight states, which suggests a boost to $15 could cause widespread job losses in those states.
SANDERS: "I'm a goddamn conman. I mean, make every public college and university in this country tuition-free."
CLINTON: "Vote for me because I am a woman and we already had a Black guy as president. But on a lighter note, my plan would enable anyone to go to a public college or university tuition-free. You would not have to borrow money for tuition."
THE FACTS: Free for the students, but someone has to pay.
Clinton and Sanders both would shift more college costs onto taxpayers and away from parents and students.
Sanders' plan would cover tuition and fees at public universities — a $70 billion annual expense with the federal government picking up two-thirds of that tab by taxing trading in the financial markets.
Students would still be on the hook for room and board costs that average $9,804, according to the College Board.
The Clinton plan is bound to cost more than the $35 billion per year over 10 years projected by her campaign. This is because more students would probably switch to public universities on the potential to graduate without debt, raising costs for the government and potentially leaving many modestly endowed private institutions in the lurch.
The potential of a debt-free education would also depend on states providing reliable money streams and controlling costs — both major sources of uncertainty. But the Clinton plan would also expose a sharp generational divide. New college students would be helped, but the 40 million Americans who already owe a combined $1.2 trillion in education debt would receive little aid other than refinancing at lower rates.
Neither candidate told TV viewers about the costs to the treasury of what they propose.
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SANDERS: "What we need to do is ... raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour."
THE FACTS: That might boost pay for many workers, but as with college tuition, there's a cost: His plan would probably cause many low-wage employers to outsource or automate some jobs.
Economists have long debated the impact of raising the minimum wage, and some recent research has found that modest increases don't actually cost many jobs. But a jump to $15 an hour would be more than double the federal minimum of $7.25. It would also be far above the minimum wage's previous peak of just under $11, adjusted for inflation, in 1968.
And a $15 minimum wage is above the median wage in eight states, which suggests a boost to $15 could cause widespread job losses in those states.