2015 NBA Draft top 10 prospects

[954UAlreadyknow]

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aw man.

two years in a row huh?

 

[labelplant]

T10 International Prospects
I haven't seen all these guys a whole lot but I gathered some info, watched all the YouTube videos and full games online that I could.
Here is what I got and even if my international scouting is limited somewhat, I've still seen more of most of these guys than a lot of y'all. I'm just obsessed with the NBA draft so I'll pass down the info. And of you have seen more, feel free to comment obviously

1. Emmanuel Mudiay 6'5 200 3/6/96 Congo

2 . Kristaps Porzingis 7'0 220 8/2/95 Latvia - after watching Sevilla play a full game I changed my mind and decided to put him slightly above Hezonja. I know people here love Mario but don't believe in the highlights. He is nice but he's got a loooong way to go. Porzingis has much more to offer right now if only because of his size. And Kristaps ceiling is up there too, he is very long and more athletic than just about any guy I saw in Europe at his size.

3. Mario Hezonja 6'6 215 2/20/95 Croatia

4. Aleksandar Vezenkov 6'8 200 8/6/95 Bulgaria - I saw Vezinkov against Olympiacos, he is only 19 and a few days younger than Porzingis and 6 months younger than Hezonja but he plays with skill, poise and confidence of an established veteran. He almost beat Olympiacos (One of the best teams in Europe) all by himself, more or less. He is not very athletic and his potential isn't as large as some OF the guys on this list but at 19 he is incredibly skilled and he is too young to not still develop and improve. Also young enough for a team to groom into their system but skilled enough to play right away.

5. George Lucas 6'6 202 5/24/96 Brazil- Still only seen highlights but he passes the eye test and I hear good things.

6. Cedi Osman 6'8 190 4/8/95 Turkey - a solid smart athletic SF, he has good size for his position, plays tough defense and is working on his shot. Should be a nice 3 and D guy from what I gather.

7. Moummadou Jaiteh 6'11 255 11/27/94 France/Senegal - really like this guy, plays for the 2nd best team In France and is already one of the best players there while only at an early stage of development. Has also put on a lot of muscle and looks much more comfortable down low. I would like him to develop some shot blocking skills but that's not how they play in Europe and out here I'm sure they'll have him swatting shots.

8. Nikola Milutinov 7'0 220 12/30/94 Serbia - Some he play in the junior world championships and he was the best non US player there. Continuing to improve his game, as a typical skilled Euro big. Makes for a nice stash pick

9. Alpha Kaba 6'10 225 1/29/96 France - Another guy I saw in the cadet games. Last year at Euro U18 he was terrific but seemed a bit undersized. He looked about 6'7 and stuck in between the forward positions. Apparently he has had a growth spurt, so that should be great for his stock.

10. Guillermo Hernangomez 6'11 255 4/20/94 Spain - True center, who has nice skills down low. He isn't the most atheltic guy but he should be good for at least 10 mpg, just taking space at least. Question is s if he wants to come over and when.
Overall this is a nice European class to go along with the great college talent. I would certainly look at some of these guys as stash picks in the 2nd if I was an exec.
Btw, while trying to scout these guys here is a few other guys I noticed playin in Europe.
Anthony Randolph (too gifted to not be on an NBA twam, he stats were dominant in the 10 games he played in the EuroCup and in Russian league)
Nando De Colo (best player in Europe right now arguably, i don't think an NBA team would even give him the type of money that he can get out there but still good enough to be on NBA roster)
Jan Vesely (seems to finally have found himself in Eeurope as the Chezh version of Josh Smith, making all types of athletic plays around the rim on both ends and bricking free throws horribly. Once again, i doubt he comes over after his experience with the Wizards but when you're 6'10 and a great athlete, you deserve a shot.)
Some other intriguing guys Whose right are all owned by NBA teams:
Alex Abrines (Thunder)
Tomas Satoransky (Wizards)
Ante Tomic (Jazz) - Already 28 but if he somehow came over next season and a team actually used him I seriously believe he could have a Pau like season. Current Pau not Prime Pau but still..

Walter Tavares (Hawks)
Marko Tadorovic (Rockets) a personal favorite, he is 6'11, has legit skills and is only 23. I hope Morey gets him to the states.
And of course Dario Saric (Sixers)

 

[NatiboyB]

Brehs can clearly see in here some cats viewed Mudiay as the superior prospect to Russell..,.And some considered Okafor as the best player in the draft.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

5. Emmanuel Mudiay - 64 year old Marbury is the MVP of the Chinese league for the last 19 seasons, so I don't really have a lot of faith in Mudiays numbers. That being said from what I've seen, he is legit bigger and stronger than John Wall and just as good of an athlete. He still needs to improve at reading the D and of course his outside shot but his ceiling is on par with Towns.

Mudiay? He's nice too. Hes very similar to John wall

See people comparing Mudiay to Westbrook, but he plays a little more like Wall. Same inconsistency too, jumpshot.

First of all i'm throwed as fukk off the henny right now but that's not important.

Let's discuss the best point guard in the 2015 draft this year: Emmanuel Mudiay.

Mudiay possess the athleticism that's highly sought after in a point guard. In the video below, you will see some passes other point guards are unable to make because of lack of athleticism.

He has a very high ball IQ, he knows when to look for his shot or when to find his teammates. The balance between this dynamic is very important.

Right now he can get whatever shot he wants. He doesn't need a screen to get to the rack and when he gets to the rack he's finding shooters in the corner like a point gawd we all know today: Johnathan Hildred Wall.

Mudiay LITERALLY plays the game EXACTLY the same as John Wall. I think Mudiay will become "great" sooner than Wall did and will probably have a better career. Idk though, but the way he moves around the pick, finishes at the basket, passes across the baseline, ect. If there was just a silouette playing, we all would think it was Wall

Mudiay is much more of a point guard than y'all might think. He's more John Wall than Westbrook/Wade

Yea,I dont get the Mudiay hate,dude is 6'5 200 ultra athletic and can pass,basically John Wall all over again,minus the crazy end to end speed

@Newzz

But I'm talking nonsense when I compare Mudiay's game to Wall's.

 

[SoulController]

Ingram plays 2 in the NBA, right? hes soooo damn thin

 

[Newzz]

@Newzz

But I'm talking nonsense when I compare Mudiay's game to Wall's.

And all of you will get tagged in my thread when Mudiay's rookie contract is up, so that I can laugh at you comparing Mudiay to John Wall


Just because you're fast and athletic doesn't automatically make you John Wall......John Wall's court vision, passing ability, man to man defense, blocking ability, ability to play the passing lanes are all parts of Wall's game that Mudiay doesn't possess.


It's actually disrespectful to mention Mudiay with Wall.....unless you're gonna call him a poor man's John Wall or rich man's Jeryl Sasser


But we'll talk about this at the end of the 2018 season

 

[CarltonJunior]

And all of you will get tagged in my thread when Mudiay's rookie contract is up, so that I can laugh at you comparing Mudiay to John Wall


Just because you're fast and athletic doesn't automatically make you John Wall......John Wall's court vision, passing ability, man to man defense, blocking ability, ability to play the passing lanes are all parts of Wall's game that Mudiay doesn't possess.


It's actually disrespectful to mention Mudiay with Wall.....unless you're gonna call him a poor man's John Wall or rich man's Jeryl Sasser


But we'll talk about this at the end of the 2018 season

But I like #DLoading breh

 

[Newzz]

But I like #DLoading breh

Yall made that comparision before the season started, so yall get the pass



Imo, after seeing what Mudiay is doing against NBA competition (rather than Chinese competition) and for anyone to still hold on to him as being the next John Wall is to me (and disrespectful to Wall) because at the same point of their NBA careers, John Wall was MUCH better.

 

[42 Monks]

Yall made that comparision before the season started, so yall get the pass



Imo, after seeing what Mudiay is doing against NBA competition (rather than Chinese competition) and for anyone to still hold on to him as being the next John Wall is to me (and disrespectful to Wall) because at the same point of their NBA careers, John Wall was MUCH better.

In Mudiay's defense, his surrounding cast is WAY worse than Wall's when he first got into the league. Malone isn't giving the kid training wheels when it comes to running the offense either. Wall couldn't do shyt but be faster than everyone else in the game for his first few years. He didn't really get it together on the offensive end til after he got that knee injury.

Not sure how people can hate on Okafor at all though. He's a beast and having to routinely start his work from about 5+ feet away from where he should because all of his guards are fukking trash.

I'm SHOCKED about Grant though. I thought he'd be better but he looks like he doesn't even belong in the league.

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

And all of you will get tagged in my thread when Mudiay's rookie contract is up, so that I can laugh at you comparing Mudiay to John Wall


Just because you're fast and athletic doesn't automatically make you John Wall......John Wall's court vision, passing ability, man to man defense, blocking ability, ability to play the passing lanes are all parts of Wall's game that Mudiay doesn't possess.


It's actually disrespectful to mention Mudiay with Wall.....unless you're gonna call him a poor man's John Wall or rich man's Jeryl Sasser


But we'll talk about this at the end of the 2018 season

I'm pretty sure his contract got two team options on it instead of one. Could be wrong though

 

[Newzz]

In Mudiay's defense, his surrounding cast is WAY worse than Wall's when he first got into the league. Malone isn't giving the kid training wheels when it comes to running the offense either. Wall couldn't do shyt but be faster than everyone else in the game for his first few years. He didn't really get it together on the offensive end til after he got that knee injury.

Not sure how people can hate on Okafor at all though. He's a beast and having to routinely start his work from about 5+ feet away from where he should because all of his guards are fukking trash.

I'm SHOCKED about Grant though. I thought he'd be better but he looks like he doesn't even belong in the league.

I liked Okafor before the draft and still do.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And all of you will get tagged in my thread when Mudiay's rookie contract is up, so that I can laugh at you comparing Mudiay to John Wall

Why would you do that? There's a difference between saying he's going to become what Wall is now in his sixth season, and comparing his style/game to that of Wall's. There's absolutely nothing funny about this comparison.

Just because you're fast and athletic doesn't automatically make you John Wall......John Wall's court vision, passing ability, man to man defense, blocking ability, ability to play the passing lanes are all parts of Wall's game that Mudiay doesn't possess.

Actually yes he does. He's averaging the same amount of blocks Wall's averaging THIS season (averaging more than Wall's rookie season).

i) He definitely has displayed the same amount of floor vision and passing ability that Wall did at 19 - I advise you to watch some games
ii) His defense is probably the most consistent thing about his game (although it really hasn't hit a consistent high point as of yet) - there are some issues with reading PNR situations and screens - when he's switched on he's given a lot of PGs fits with how well he moves laterally and contest shots.


Lineup/personnel issues and lack of confidence/being aggressive have hindered him up to this point.

It's actually disrespectful to mention Mudiay with Wall.....unless you're gonna call him a poor man's John Wall or rich man's Jeryl Sasser


But we'll talk about this at the end of the 2018 season

This obstinate attitude isn't going to get you anywhere. Let these rookies breathe (and watch games) before you start throwing all this dumb shyt at the wall in the vain attempt of hoping it sticks.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Yall made that comparision before the season started, so yall get the pass



Imo, after seeing what Mudiay is doing against NBA competition (rather than Chinese competition) and for anyone to still hold on to him as being the next John Wall is to me (and disrespectful to Wall) because at the same point of their NBA careers, John Wall was MUCH better.

Why do you keep saying this as if you watch games? I'm willing to bet the only game of his you've watched this season was against the Lakers.

 

[Newzz]

Why would you do that? There's a difference between saying he's going to become what Wall is now in his sixth season, and comparing his style/game to that of Wall's. There's absolutely nothing funny about this comparison.

Actually yes he does. He's averaging the same amount of blocks Wall's averaging THIS season (averaging more than Wall's rookie season).

i) He definitely has displayed the same amount of floor vision and passing ability that Wall did at 19 - I advise you to watch some games
ii) His defense is probably the most consistent thing about his game (although it really hasn't hit a consistent high point as of yet) - there are some issues with reading PNR situations and screens - when he's switched on he's given a lot of PGs fits with how well he moves laterally and contest shots.


Lineup/personnel issues and lack of confidence/being aggressive have hindered him up to this point.

This obstinate attitude isn't going to get you anywhere. Let these rookies breathe (and watch games) before you start throwing all this dumb shyt at the wall in the vain attempt of hoping it sticks.

Like I said....we'll go over this again in 2 years