2015 Warriors Vs Recent NBA champions

[42 Monks]

They were doing just fine until of course they lost .

The Cavs had no offense breh. Their offense after Kyrie went down was Bron pounding the ball into the ground for 20 seconds and missing a shot or passing it somebody else to miss and then getting the board and doing the same thing again. Mosgov got nailed to the bench after Bogut got nailed to the bench for not putting up a fight inside. The Warriors changed a starting lineup that won them 67 games and 3 playoff rounds because the Cavs were sacrificing their offense and gambling .

If none of the other options would have worked any better, what exactly is the point of discussing them? So you think a team that struggled to score would have had similar issues with two 20 point scorers added?

Changing a starting lineup != changing your entire approach to the game lol

You'd have a point if you said that the Warriors suddenly went to a zone defense or something... Bogut was redundant. All there was to it.

Mozgov got nailed to the bench because he was a net negative overall. Couldn't help guard anyone that mattered. Clogged the lane. Couldn't initiate any offense on his own. Mozgov got more touches in that one game than he ever did through his career - that's a perfect example of a desperate team throwing shyt at the wall hoping something sticks.

"Cavs had no offense" because they played one of the best defenses the league had seen in years. But that's just another example of people giving the Warriors no credit.

 

[Millions]

warriors are just as good as the big 3 Celtics and heat and the Spurs...

I hope they repeat as well cause they had a great season...

 

[FTBS]

Changing a starting lineup != changing your entire approach to the game lol

You'd have a point if you said that the Warriors suddenly went to a zone defense or something... Bogut was redundant. All there was to it.

Mozgov got nailed to the bench because he was a net negative overall. Couldn't help guard anyone that mattered. Clogged the lane. Couldn't initiate any offense on his own. Mozgov got more touches in that one game than he ever did through his career - that's a perfect example of a desperate team throwing shyt at the wall hoping something sticks.

"Cavs had no offense" because they played one of the best defenses the league had seen in years. But that's just another example of people giving the Warriors no credit.

Why wasn't he redundant during the record-setting regular season or dominant playoff run? And yeah when you go from having a legit 7 footer to a lineup with nobody over 6'7 that is a rather drastic change.

Why wasn't Mosgov a net negative overall before GSW made said drastic change to their 67 win starting lineup that played that defense the league hadn't see in years? You're right it was all about GSW defense. Had nothing to do with 2 of the Cavs top 3 scorers being out.

The Warriors get credit for winning. You can't take that away from them. If you leave it at that then there is no argument. The issue comes in when people start comparing them to more complete teams or doing gymnastics to deny what actually happened en route to that victory.

 

[42 Monks]

Why wasn't he redundant during the record-setting regular season or dominant playoff run? And yeah when you go from having a legit 7 footer to a lineup with nobody over 6'7 that is a rather drastic change.

Why wasn't Mosgov a net negative overall before GSW made said drastic change to their 67 win starting lineup that played that defense the league hadn't see in years? You're right it was all about GSW defense. Had nothing to do with 2 of the Cavs top 3 scorers being out.

The Warriors get credit for winning. You can't take that away from them. If you leave it at that then there is no argument. The issue comes in when people start comparing them to more complete teams or doing gymnastics to deny what actually happened en route to that victory.

Why wasn't he redundant? Because matchups you making it sound like that switch cost them a game or something. They could play their exact same defense (because Cleveland was playing into it) and maintain their offense (because Cleveland couldn't do shyt about small ball) with that change.

And again, find a game where Mozgov got more shots than in his one big game in the Finals. Be sure to check the score and efficiency of all the rest of Cleveland's players in that game as well. Cleveland's offense wasn't even remotely the same to what was being run just a week prior to the finals. That wasn't because of Kyrie being out either. Their pace changed drastically in the Finals.

I mean, you could look up both of those things... but I doubt you will.

 

[FTBS]

Why wasn't he redundant? Because matchups you making it sound like that switch cost them a game or something. They could play their exact same defense (because Cleveland was playing into it) and maintain their offense (because Cleveland couldn't do shyt about small ball) with that change.

And again, find a game where Mozgov got more shots than in his one big game in the Finals. Be sure to check the score and efficiency of all the rest of Cleveland's players in that game as well. Cleveland's offense wasn't even remotely the same to what was being run just a week prior to the finals. That wasn't because of Kyrie being out either. Their pace changed drastically in the Finals.

I mean, you could look up both of those things... but I doubt you will.

Cavs were 25th out of 30 teams in terms of pace during the regular season, and that was with Love and Kyrie. Against ATL their pace was 90.4. Against GSW their pace was 90.7. Drastic change there .Beyond that you do realize that GSW wants to play at a faster pace right. Slowing the pace down would certainly not be something they willing played any part in.

Who is saying the Cavs offense wasn't shytty? Anything negative you say about the Cavs only enhances my point and calls GSW into question for taking 6 games and a drastic lineup change to dispatch them. Say what you will about Mosgov. Nobody is saying he was prime Kareem. He was just better than Bogut. So much so that the best team in the L, with a historic defense benched their healthy starting C in game 4 of the Finals because he suddenly became redundant and had a poor matchup after playing against Marc Gasol and Dwight Howard and somehow not being redundant or a poor matchup.