2016 Hamptons Recruiting Meeting: KD - "When The Game Is On The Line Who Is Taking The Last Shot" Steph- "You Are, You The Best Player On The Team"

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So Wade was considered the third greatest SG of all time if he retired in 2010

ONLY 5 SGS HAVE WON
FINALS MVP
WITH DUMARS AND DENNIS JOHNSON
NOT EVEN BEING IN WADES TIER
SO YEA WADE ALREADY CEMENTED
HIMSELF AMONGST SGS BY 2010.

HE COULD HAVE CONTINUED
TO AVERAGE 25PTS FOR
THE REST OF HIS CAREER AND
BEEN FINE.

YOU ONLY NEED ONE RING
WHEN YOURE NOT TRYING
TO BE GOAT.

I.E. DIRK, GIANNIS, JOKER ETC
DUDES CAN JUST COLLECT STATS
FOR THE REST OF THEIR CAREERS
AND BE LOOKED AT IN GREAT LIGHTS
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ONLY 5 SGS HAVE WON
FINALS MVP
WITH DUMARS AND DENNIS JOHNSON
NOT EVEN BEING IN WADES TIER
SO YEA WADE ALREADY CEMENTED
HIMSELF AMONGST SGS BY 2010.

HE COULD HAVE CONTINUED
TO AVERAGE 25PTS FOR
THE REST OF HIS CAREER AND
BEEN FINE.

YOU ONLY NEED ONE RING
WHEN YOURE NOT TRYING
TO BE GOAT.

I.E. DIRK, GIANNIS, JOKER ETC
DUDES CAN JUST COLLECT STATS
FOR THE REST OF THEIR CAREERS
AND BE LOOKED AT IN GREAT LIGHTS
:devil:
:evil:

His body was already falling apart by 2012 when he didn’t have to shoulder the load. Especially with his playstyle. Asking him to average 25 and lead a team for another 7-8 years is crazy, but I know you set in your argument so I’ll just agree to disagree
 

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OF COURSE WADE WAS p*ssy FOR THAT
AND HE DIDNT HELP HIS LEGACY AT ALL.

BRON WAS THE ONLY ONE
WHO BENEFITTED FROM THAT MOVE.

WADE WAS LOOKED AT BETTER
WITH HIS FMVP BEFORE THE BIG 3.

NOW HES JUST ANOTHER PERSON
WHO GETS DOWNPLAYED TO
BOOST BRON
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KD can’t beat Bron without Steph :russ:

See how that works. Hell KD outside of one season couldn’t event make the finals without Steph. The same player who ruined his next chance at getting to one without him lol
 

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His body was already falling apart by 2012 when he didn’t have to shoulder the load. Especially with his playstyle. Asking him to average 25 and lead a team for another 7-8 years is crazy, but I know you set in your argument so I’ll just agree to disagree

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT 8 YRS?

WADE COULD HAVE EASILY AVERAGED
25PTS FOR THE NEXT 5 YRS.

THE nikka AVERAGED 22PTS
DURING THAT SAME SPAN IN REALITY
PLUS YOU'RE FORGETTING HE
WOULD HAVE HAD BOSH WHO
ALSO SAW HIS CAREER DIMINISHED.

THATS MORE SHOTS
FOR BOTH OF THEM
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KD can’t beat Bron without Steph :russ:

See how that works. Hell KD outside of one season couldn’t event make the finals without Steph. The same player who ruined his next chance at getting to one without him lol

READ THE THREAD TITLE.


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STAY CONSISTENT nikka.

KD CANT WIN MVP BECAUSE
HES ON A SUPER TEAM.

BRON WINS IT WHILE
ON A SUPER TEAM AND YOU
POST ALL OF THIS BULLshyt

LMAO @ INCREASING BRONS
ASSIST COUNT LIKE NO ONE
WOULD NOTICE
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He decreased Rose’s PPG by a point also, which makes no sense because he rounded his assists (7.9) to 8, but rounded down his 21.8ppg to 21.
 
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THOSE 2 EXTRA RINGS
DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
FOR WADES LEGACY.

ALL THEY DID
WAS BOOST BRON
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Wade's legacy was improved by going there, or else we wouldn't have 13 years now of people talking bout "he taught Bron how to be a winner" or "Bron wouldn't have those wings without Wade"...

Wade historically benefits as a 3x champion who "sacrificed his individual greatness" in comparison to if he was a 1x who never won again. Because we can be real, Wade was never winning another title. He wasn't winning a title with Chris Bosh alone, and nothing about his career suggests he was doing anything had Bron gone there...

shyt like him being 2-5 career in the playoffs without Shaq or Bron standing next to him, NEVER gets mentioned 🤣 he's absolutely got a historic legacy boost, you never hear critique about this guy. 20-4 (.833) in the playoffs with Shaq and Bron--->"Wade is such a winner". 2-5 (.286) in the playoffs without Shaq and Bron---->nothing ever said about it...

Wade played for 5 years after Bron left, and as mentioned, his body started deteriorating in the 2012 playoffs. Without Bron there shouldering the load he doesn't get those other two championships and he's probably done done, after the 2012 season. His 5-year post-Bron career he averaged 17 points. Without Bron he had another two years at best of 25ppg, then the bottom would've fallen out...

His career would have been viewed differently. He'd get his flowers as a 1x champ the way Dirk and Garnett do, but he wouldn't be given the stature he has now, without Bron coming to Miami...

And you fooling saying Bosh got his career diminished 🤣 this nikka career would look like Demarcus Cousins if he didn't go to Miami, stop it 🤣

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT 8 YRS?

WADE COULD HAVE EASILY AVERAGED
25PTS FOR THE NEXT 5 YRS.

THE nikka AVERAGED 22PTS
DURING THAT SAME SPAN IN REALITY
PLUS YOU'RE FORGETTING HE
WOULD HAVE HAD BOSH WHO
ALSO SAW HIS CAREER DIMINISHED.

THATS MORE SHOTS
FOR BOTH OF THEM
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KD should've won MVP the first season

Media was salty and gave it to a player with 17 less wins

Resentment was high those 3 years. KD stood tall though
How do you win MVP when your team won 6 fewer games with you than they did the year before without you AND the MVP of that previous season is still on the team?
 

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How do you win MVP when your team won 6 fewer games with you than they did the year before without you AND the MVP of that previous season is still on the team?

2016-2017 is 2016-2017

KD was obviously the best player that season

Giving it to someone who won 17 fewer games remains stupid
 

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2016-2017 is 2016-2017

KD was obviously the best player that season

Giving it to someone who won 17 fewer games remains stupid
List all the dudes that won MVP their first year on a new team and that new team won fewer games than the year before. If he wanted MVP, going to a team with the reigning back to back MVP probably isnt the place to go.
 

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List all the dudes that won MVP their first year on a new team and that new team won fewer games than the year before. If he wanted MVP, going to a team with the reigning back to back MVP probably isnt the place to go.

At the time, "canceling each other out" was stupid. And still is

The logic would have to hold thru today and we'd have to concur that Tatum/Brown avg 25 plus on the same time will cancel their MVP chances going further
 

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I agree with you…im not mad at gs for recruiting him or kd for going.

Im talking about people saying kd stacked the deck as if he just forced himself there without golden state wanting him..but those same people dont say nothing about golden state putting on a full court press to bring him in
Forcing his way there has nothing to do with people saying he stacked the deck. The Warriors winning a chip and 140 games and beating KDs team after being down 3-1 and then choking away would shoulda been a second straight chip is where that comes from.
 

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At the time, "canceling each other out" was stupid. And still is

The logic would have to hold thru today and we'd have to concur that Tatum/Brown avg 25 plus on the same time will cancel their MVP chances going further
They just had the best record in the league by an even bigger margin than GSW did and neither was even top 5 in MVP voting. We would have to concur that if a great player joined them and they actually won fewer games there is no way that player wins MVP.
 

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Any serviceable wing(not named Barnes)would have got the job done why not aim for the best :manny:

You out here doing pre 2022 takes lol
they shoulda ran it back with barnes.

They literally lost in da final minute of game 7 lol and they were up 10 at half. They coulda won. Maybe curry shouldnt have been bricking and gettin torched by kyrie. Those behind da back passes that led to turnovers werent helping either.


Barnes was good enough to start for 73 wins
They didnt want da smoke with Lebron and begged for a easy way out.
 
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