2026 New York Giants Offseason Thread: Dart and skattebo
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Captain Crunch
Veteran
Dan Duggan killin them for the failed nepotism in the front office 
As discouraging as that decision is for fans who somehow still muster support for a team that is getting further from its proud history with each passing season, that’s ownership’s right. If your grandfather had spent $500 to purchase the Giants in 1925, you, too, could make decisions that prioritized keeping family members and allies in cushy roles as the franchise bottoms out during one of the worst stretches in its 101-year history.
But even Schoen is only a symptom of the rot that has infected the franchise. Just look through the staff directory and note how many people with lofty titles have survived losing season after losing season.
That focus starts with members of ownership in prominent front office roles. It was the very arrangement that franchise-saving general manager George Young prevented during his tenure from 1979-97.
“We can’t have any fireproof heads of player personnel,” Young said when blocking the ascension of Chris Mara to the head of player personnel in the 1990s.
Young’s warnings were eventually disregarded, with Mara, the younger brother of team president and CEO John Mara, returning to the organization as vice president of player evaluation in 2003 after a decade-long sabbatical. His current title is senior player personnel executive.
Chris Mara’s involvement in personnel decisions has been reduced in recent years, but his role as an owner is expected to grow as John Mara battles cancer.
The nepotism extended to the next generation with Tim McDonnell, John and Chris’ nephew, joining the front office in 2013 as a pro scout. That was his role for six years before he was promoted to assistant director of player personnel in 2019. He held that title for two years before getting promoted again to his current role as director of player personnel, where he “works closely with Schoen and assistant general manager Brandon Brown in overseeing all aspects of the player personnel department,” according to his team biography.
The Giants have the third-worst record in the NFL since McDonnell joined the organization, yet he has continued to climb the front office ladder. It’s certainly not all McDonnell’s fault that the team has been so dreadful over the past decade, but firing Schoen may have drawn more attention to the head of the personnel department, who continues to secure promotions during this dark stretch.
And that’s only to mention the family members in prominent roles. There are members in every department of the organization who have been untouchable through every regime change.
Things might not be as comfortable for the protected class if a new general manager took over. But no one has to worry about that, because for all of the losses by his roster on the field, Schoen scored the most important win for survival in the Giants’ organization by endearing himself to ownership.
So now, as always, the Giants turn their focus to a new head coach to save the franchise.
“Their solution forever has been hire a new coach, and he’ll solve all the ills, but they didn’t change anything else,” a former member of the Giants’ coaching staff told The Athletic four years ago. “They didn’t change their personnel department; they didn’t change how they do things; they didn’t change any of that stuff. If you want to make a real organizational change, you’ve got to change everybody. You’ve got to change the people who are in charge of the personnel. You’ve got to get new ideas in there.”
As discouraging as that decision is for fans who somehow still muster support for a team that is getting further from its proud history with each passing season, that’s ownership’s right. If your grandfather had spent $500 to purchase the Giants in 1925, you, too, could make decisions that prioritized keeping family members and allies in cushy roles as the franchise bottoms out during one of the worst stretches in its 101-year history.
But even Schoen is only a symptom of the rot that has infected the franchise. Just look through the staff directory and note how many people with lofty titles have survived losing season after losing season.
That focus starts with members of ownership in prominent front office roles. It was the very arrangement that franchise-saving general manager George Young prevented during his tenure from 1979-97.
“We can’t have any fireproof heads of player personnel,” Young said when blocking the ascension of Chris Mara to the head of player personnel in the 1990s.
Young’s warnings were eventually disregarded, with Mara, the younger brother of team president and CEO John Mara, returning to the organization as vice president of player evaluation in 2003 after a decade-long sabbatical. His current title is senior player personnel executive.
Chris Mara’s involvement in personnel decisions has been reduced in recent years, but his role as an owner is expected to grow as John Mara battles cancer.
The nepotism extended to the next generation with Tim McDonnell, John and Chris’ nephew, joining the front office in 2013 as a pro scout. That was his role for six years before he was promoted to assistant director of player personnel in 2019. He held that title for two years before getting promoted again to his current role as director of player personnel, where he “works closely with Schoen and assistant general manager Brandon Brown in overseeing all aspects of the player personnel department,” according to his team biography.
The Giants have the third-worst record in the NFL since McDonnell joined the organization, yet he has continued to climb the front office ladder. It’s certainly not all McDonnell’s fault that the team has been so dreadful over the past decade, but firing Schoen may have drawn more attention to the head of the personnel department, who continues to secure promotions during this dark stretch.
And that’s only to mention the family members in prominent roles. There are members in every department of the organization who have been untouchable through every regime change.
Things might not be as comfortable for the protected class if a new general manager took over. But no one has to worry about that, because for all of the losses by his roster on the field, Schoen scored the most important win for survival in the Giants’ organization by endearing himself to ownership.
So now, as always, the Giants turn their focus to a new head coach to save the franchise.
“Their solution forever has been hire a new coach, and he’ll solve all the ills, but they didn’t change anything else,” a former member of the Giants’ coaching staff told The Athletic four years ago. “They didn’t change their personnel department; they didn’t change how they do things; they didn’t change any of that stuff. If you want to make a real organizational change, you’ve got to change everybody. You’ve got to change the people who are in charge of the personnel. You’ve got to get new ideas in there.”
Dan Duggan killin them for the failed nepotism in the front office
As discouraging as that decision is for fans who somehow still muster support for a team that is getting further from its proud history with each passing season, that’s ownership’s right. If your grandfather had spent $500 to purchase the Giants in 1925, you, too, could make decisions that prioritized keeping family members and allies in cushy roles as the franchise bottoms out during one of the worst stretches in its 101-year history.
But even Schoen is only a symptom of the rot that has infected the franchise. Just look through the staff directory and note how many people with lofty titles have survived losing season after losing season.
That focus starts with members of ownership in prominent front office roles. It was the very arrangement that franchise-saving general manager George Young prevented during his tenure from 1979-97.
“We can’t have any fireproof heads of player personnel,” Young said when blocking the ascension of Chris Mara to the head of player personnel in the 1990s.
Young’s warnings were eventually disregarded, with Mara, the younger brother of team president and CEO John Mara, returning to the organization as vice president of player evaluation in 2003 after a decade-long sabbatical. His current title is senior player personnel executive.
Chris Mara’s involvement in personnel decisions has been reduced in recent years, but his role as an owner is expected to grow as John Mara battles cancer.
The nepotism extended to the next generation with Tim McDonnell, John and Chris’ nephew, joining the front office in 2013 as a pro scout. That was his role for six years before he was promoted to assistant director of player personnel in 2019. He held that title for two years before getting promoted again to his current role as director of player personnel, where he “works closely with Schoen and assistant general manager Brandon Brown in overseeing all aspects of the player personnel department,” according to his team biography.
The Giants have the third-worst record in the NFL since McDonnell joined the organization, yet he has continued to climb the front office ladder. It’s certainly not all McDonnell’s fault that the team has been so dreadful over the past decade, but firing Schoen may have drawn more attention to the head of the personnel department, who continues to secure promotions during this dark stretch.
And that’s only to mention the family members in prominent roles. There are members in every department of the organization who have been untouchable through every regime change.
Things might not be as comfortable for the protected class if a new general manager took over. But no one has to worry about that, because for all of the losses by his roster on the field, Schoen scored the most important win for survival in the Giants’ organization by endearing himself to ownership.
So now, as always, the Giants turn their focus to a new head coach to save the franchise.
“Their solution forever has been hire a new coach, and he’ll solve all the ills, but they didn’t change anything else,” a former member of the Giants’ coaching staff told The Athletic four years ago. “They didn’t change their personnel department; they didn’t change how they do things; they didn’t change any of that stuff. If you want to make a real organizational change, you’ve got to change everybody. You’ve got to change the people who are in charge of the personnel. You’ve got to get new ideas in there.”
Yep. All of this is just makeup on a pig until this family goes away. If mara dies idk what the succession plan is but im sure it will be more of the same.
Yeah, time for me to take a hiatus.
Also....
2nd worst win % over the past 5 seasons, and you keep this Schoen bozo
Also....
2nd worst win % over the past 5 seasons, and you keep this Schoen bozo
AJtheOne
Nets/Giants/Yankees
Schoen should have been gone before Daboll.
Schoen should’ve been gone as soon as Philly won the sb.
At least Schoen should’ve been gone as soon as the season ended .
Schoen should’ve been gone as soon as Philly won the sb.
At least Schoen should’ve been gone as soon as the season ended .
Adebisi_Said
Truth is Power
Since the Giants have a habit of winning meaningless games, Week 17 will be against Arizona and Week 18 will be against the NFC East team with nothing to play for.
Captain Crunch
Veteran
With Harbaraugh out, I can’t wait to see him either curve the Giants, or the org gives him the Gruden contract. 
Cool Dr. Money
I’m Lil Jimmy but my boys call me J-Murder!
If they fired Joe i think we could’ve had a legitimate chance at hiring Harbaraugh then he could’ve brought in his own general manager
PIFF101
Bring back the Golden Era
With Harbaraugh out, I can’t wait to see him either curve the Giants, or the org gives him the Gruden contract.
I’m gon be watchin to see how this shyt plays out. Even if they throw him the
, can he work with Schoen?would be even better if Harbaugh said he's not taking the job unless they cut all the shytty nepotism in the building to force their hand.
Mister_DoItNice
Leading The Regime
They need to bring in Harbaugh and let him bring in some personnel people from Baltimore as well as his own GM. This whole shyt needs a renovation.
fukk Schoen and all the goofy Maras with football jobs who don’t know shyt.
fukk Schoen and all the goofy Maras with football jobs who don’t know shyt.
