6 figures 6 certs crew I got a question

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I tried asking this question in the 6 figures 6 certs forum but no one responded so I decided to ask here :yeshrug:.

So I get out of the military in 2 weeks and will start college in a few months. I plan on majoring in software engineering and already have some knowledge in C++ and Objective C. I enjoy writing code but something has been bugging me lately. I noticed that all of a sudden everyone wants to learn how to code nowadays. This is especially prevalent on social media. My guess is that after the market crash a lot of people got ruined economically and are looking for ways to improve their lot in life (more people getting into stocks and coding from what I've noticed). I would hate to graduate only to find a a market over saturated with developers and software engineers. My question is this. What technologies should I start heading towards to remain competitive. My guess is Artificial intelligence and the internet of things right? Also how should I deal with this upcoming influx of people (an influx of people that will make it more difficult to land an entry level software engineering job :francis:).
 

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most the jobs are programming web or mobile applications. HTML/CSS, JavaScript/TypeScript, React/React Native, Node.JS, Java are all going to be around for a while. I've heard Swift is much nicer than Objective-C for iOS and will remain an in demand skill for a while.

AI is hot but starting to cool down a little bit and it's highly competitive. The good companies you want to work at actually working on interesting AI stuff and paying good money mostly hire PhDs and Masters at the very least for AI teams. They're not hiring you to do AI with a Bachelor's unless you're some superstar at Stanford or MIT or something. You might get hired onto an AI team but to do general software engineering or DevOps stuff (managing deployments of ML models, API plumbing between services) but that's not interesting.
 

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yeah everyone is learning but it's like mathematics. You can branch off into different industries depending on what route you want to take.
plus from what i've seen. A lot of these people are trying to learn it and cybersecurity.
Fintech is rising
also learning how to handle data and creating data structures is more advanced but will never go out of style.
 

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I don't think you have much to fear if you can dedicate yourself to this profession. It takes a certain type of personality to do this type of work at a high level. The glut of bootcampers provide the same level of threat (little) as Indian outsourcing in my opinion.
 

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Just because everyone says they wanna learn, doesn't mean shyt. If they don't have a degree then they're going to have a tough road to hoe. Entry level competition is already tough enough amongst Bachelor's Degree holders. What you want to do is make sure you're getting internships because that will set you apart. AI and IOT stuff is generally masters fields like Nobu said.
 

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I tried asking this question in the 6 figures 6 certs forum but no one responded so I decided to ask here :yeshrug:.

So I get out of the military in 2 weeks and will start college in a few months. I plan on majoring in software engineering and already have some knowledge in C++ and Objective C. I enjoy writing code but something has been bugging me lately. I noticed that all of a sudden everyone wants to learn how to code nowadays. This is especially prevalent on social media. My guess is that after the market crash a lot of people got ruined economically and are looking for ways to improve their lot in life (more people getting into stocks and coding from what I've noticed). I would hate to graduate only to find a a market over saturated with developers and software engineers. My question is this. What technologies should I start heading towards to remain competitive. My guess is Artificial intelligence and the internet of things right? Also how should I deal with this upcoming influx of people (an influx of people that will make it more difficult to land an entry level software engineering job :francis:).

Dont believe the hype a lot of ppl say they want to get into tech/IT/STEM but they dont really have the fortitude for it. Once they get to those advanced math classes or get into fuctions, loops, algorithms, etc. They start looking for alternatives :francis:. Comp Sci as a major has high drop out rates.

IT requires a lot of self studying, most cant do it.

85% will not follow through and stick with what they know.
 

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The technology is dependent on what you want to do. Do you want to be a web developer? Quantum computing developer? AI, Data Science, or ML developer? Graphics engine developer? Compiler or language developer?

What you should have a mastery of are: data structures, algorithms, and some real world projects. For the latter, you can go to sites like Topcoder and work on what they have there.

In short, you're ability to code, be famiilar with real-world issues, and communicate will be the most important thing going into an interview, no matter how saturated the market is.
 

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Dont believe the hype a lot of ppl say they want to get into tech/IT/STEM but they dont really have the fortitude for it. Once they get to those advanced math classes or get into fuctions, loops, algorithms, etc. They start looking for alternatives :francis:. Comp Sci as a major has high drop out rates.

IT requires a lot of self studying, most cant do it.

85% will not follow through and stick with what they know.

This x 100. At LEAST 75% of the people who "are gonna get into coding" will give up when it gets hard.

Another 50% that don't give up on the first hurdle will give up when it gets harder.

shyt over half of the people in my freshman engineering classes changed majors after the first year.
 
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Don’t worry about people learning. It’s a difference between being a software engineer and being competent and continuing to learn.

if you’re competent and keep growing you’ll be fine.
 

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When the internet tells you something is "oversaturated " don't believe that BS

Tech doesnt have that problem yet. We have built in safe guards (high level math classes and technical interviews ) that weed them boys out
 

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I tried asking this question in the 6 figures 6 certs forum but no one responded so I decided to ask here :yeshrug:.

So I get out of the military in 2 weeks and will start college in a few months. I plan on majoring in software engineering and already have some knowledge in C++ and Objective C. I enjoy writing code but something has been bugging me lately. I noticed that all of a sudden everyone wants to learn how to code nowadays. This is especially prevalent on social media. My guess is that after the market crash a lot of people got ruined economically and are looking for ways to improve their lot in life (more people getting into stocks and coding from what I've noticed). I would hate to graduate only to find a a market over saturated with developers and software engineers. My question is this. What technologies should I start heading towards to remain competitive. My guess is Artificial intelligence and the internet of things right? Also how should I deal with this upcoming influx of people (an influx of people that will make it more difficult to land an entry level software engineering job :francis:).
do not worry about a saturated job market. coding bootcamps have been around for damn near over a decade now and our country is still hurting for coding talent. People have been talking about cybersecurity for years and there's still not enough talent. People love to talk. Not as many follow through.

Focus on developing a skillset that is based in math/statistics & coding. From there you can get into data science. Then that will translate easily into a lot of different emerging technologies: AI, Machine Learning, IoT, Blockchain, etc.

Coding wise you are doing great with the C++. Pick up R and Python. They will serve you very well if you went into ML and/or AI.

Do not worry about a masters or PhD. It can be helpful but it's not a requirement. These fields are changing so rapidly that a lot of school curriculums can't really keep up. Having the data science skillset with the right coding languages will allow you to get on the job experience and work your way up into whatever domain you want from there
 

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Bro trust me when I say the barrier of entry isn't as low as they advertise. Theres only an oversaturation of Jr. Developers...Most companies don't want the noobs who learn off udemy. They want people with mid to sr. Level skills and can hit the ground running. U gotta be dedicated to make it and a lot of folks won't make it in this field... plus there's so many different hats u can wear i wouldnt worry about oversaturation. Just specialize in something whether its backend front-end mobile etc. You'll be good... oh and join online communities and find a mentor it will save u some time and answer these questions u have
 

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Bro we're generations away from you having to worry about the tech industry being oversaturated. It's not even close to it's saturation point. Think about how much technology has advanced over the last decade. The technology and need for skillset has far outpaced the population.

And this pandemic has only expanded it. You know how many VPN , online learning, and work from home companies are in desperate need of workers right now?
 
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