I'm going to say that most of just the sonic developments in rap/hip-hop after Kanye dropped that 808s did a lot to change how artists express themselves and the type of melodies they use.
808s and Heartbreaks is Kanye's most influential album after College Dropout Yay/Nay?
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to me Late Registration was better than 808
interesting point to make and i'll have to agree with you to a certain extent. it's been 5 years i believe, so let's see what it is in another 5-10.
on the flipside i do have to laugh at you calling that album a sonic development because everything he did on that album was pretty much a throwback from the drums/synth, the phil collins-esque song writing, the tears for fears rehash at the end. developments...eh? but influential nonetheless.
on the flipside i do have to laugh at you calling that album a sonic development because everything he did on that album was pretty much a throwback from the drums/synth, the phil collins-esque song writing, the tears for fears rehash at the end. developments...eh? but influential nonetheless.
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it was but 808s and MBDTF are the most influential by far.
cd really isnt all that influential
without 808s, one of, if not the world's biggest rapper is donnis status right now
Drake claims DJ Khalil inspired it. After he did Fear (beat made in 07), it sat on the shelf, and everybody that heard it was saying its his best song, so he used Fear to influence the rest of SFG. He kept it off the mixtape, because he was saving it for his debut, but he finally dropped it on the EP
Found it: http://m.complex.com/music/2011/03/dj-khalil-tells-all/the-one
(Links fuct up im on my phone, but its in that same article)
"We talked shortly after that and he was like, 'Yo, this song provided the whole vibe of the So Far Gone mixtape. He was like, 'This song was kind of the direction and a blueprint."
So i guess drake told 40 the vibe and he went to 808s for inspiration for himself
how is it influential when the entire album is a wanna be t-pain song
it was but 808s and MBDTF are the most influential by far.
cd really isnt all that influential
without 808s, one of, if not the world's biggest rapper is donnis status right now
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I think it influenced artists like Drake, but it didn't really influence how artists expressed themselves or anything in regard to melody. Before 808's, there was Love Below and Diddy's Press Play (to a much lesser extent). In regard to Press Play, I'm specifically referring to songs like "Last Night" featuring Keyshia Cole.
Eh, it's hard to say really because Late Registration was similar to College Dropout, while the sound and styles of Graduation and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy were very hard to steal/build upon. So, I guess it is, but mostly because of his other albums being really hard to bite off of.
Yeah, but in terms of IMPACT College Dropout is the more legendary album just based on the themes it touches on.
Late Registration is definitely better than CD...but I can't compare 808s to LR. Two different pieces of work.
nikkas don't give Diddy that credit though...and I feel you. Press Play and Last Train to Paris weren't THAT bad but I think Kanye's work resonated with people more in how complete it was.