Poetical Poltergeist
Precise and cold hearted
9/11 changed the world though. Like covid.
9/11 angle I never seen before
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Ok....
Alot of things have changed the world....
A strategic terrorist attack on America to respond to its intervention in the Muslim world should:
A: permanently hurt or destroy America
B: reduce America's presence in the Muslim world
It failed at A. And actually caused the opposite if B.
I'm just speaking on Bin Ladens plan failing. Hundreds of thousands of dead Muslims and less than 10k dead Americans over the course of 20 years. Children are growing up right now with no recollection of 9/11...
I'm sure he expected the US to end up like Russia in Ukraine... but we ate 20 years of war like it was a pack of gushers. For the average American, the longest lasting effect of 9/11 is longer lines at the airport.
GPBear
The Tape Crusader
that was the entire point. 9/11 wasn't meant to be a short-term attack; it was intended (and succeeded) in getting Bush to engage in a war he couldn't win, and waste American resources. Meanwhile, by dropping bombs throughout the middle east, any child who saw the devastation inflicted by the US would be more likely to become radicalized against them, which is exactly what happened with ISIS -- buncha dudes in their late teens/early 20s who grew up during the wars and wanted retribution.bin laden did have a sick ass short term pla n to inflict damage...
and it was executed pretty good...
but I bet if he would have known how many muslim bodies were gonna drop in iraq/afghanistan afterwards...
he might have had second thoughts...
plus this shyt just strengthened the U.S. military with increased budget, increased intelligence and operational leeway, and currently the largest combat experienced personnel in the world
But...
We currently have much more widespread softpower and leverage over both Afghanistan and Iraq... Al qaeda and ISIS have been nearly wiped out....
His plan hasn't come to fruition in over 20 years...
He wanted to sacrifice whole populations of Muslims hoping there would be a force formed to get back at America... instead we wiped out every force that formed and allowed corrupt governments that are easily controlled to take hold in iraq/Afghanistan.
Imagine how easy it is to throw money at the new Taliban gov. to shoot us names of forming terrorist cells. Don't even need an active army there... a drone slides thru takes out the cell. Afghan government protests like they didn't know anything. Same in Iraq. If you really read up on what's going on, the strategic foothold we have in both countries is so effective because it doesn't look like we have any power. Plausible deniability for anybody involved. Just a few bricks of cash to get info to flow.
Bin Laden expected a weaker American resolve. He was hoping for Vietnam. He ended up with the Tulsa Massacre
GPBear
The Tape Crusader
we spent trillions of dollars, went through two economic recessions, and neo-fascism is on the rise, i'd say he got hisBut...
We currently have much more widespread softpower and leverage over both Afghanistan and Iraq... Al qaeda and ISIS have been nearly wiped out....
His plan hasn't come to fruition in over 20 years...
He wanted to sacrifice whole populations of Muslims hoping there would be a force formed to get bsck at America... instead we wiped out every force that formed and allowed corrupt governments that are easily controlled to take hold in iraq/Afghanistan.
Imagine how easy it is to throw money at the new Taliban gov. to shoot us names of firming terrorist cells. Don't even need an active army there... a drone slides thru takes out the cell. Afghan government protests like they didn't know anything. Same in Iraq. If you really read up on what's going on, the strategic foothold we have in both countries is so effective because it doesn't look like we have any power. Plausible deniabiloty for anybody involved. Just a few bricks of cash to get info to flow.
Bin Laden expected a weaker American resolve. He was hoping for Vietnam. He ended up with the Tulsa Massacre
money's worth1. Mortgage crisis caused by greedy bankers. No connection to 9/11we spent trillions of dollars, went through two economic recessions, and neo-fascism is on the rise, i'd say he got his
2. Recession because of Covid and an inept President. No connection to 9/11
3. Fascism was always on the rise due to the racism that has existed since the founding of the country. Having a black president sped up the process. No connection to 9/11..
Yall keep trying to attribute everything wrong with this country to 9/11... like before bin Laden we didn't have a rising racism problem or greedy bankers or a shyt Healthcare system.
Lol
The trillions spent on the war didn't prevent us from making progress. Racism and politics did. All bin Laden did was improve our military and intelligence capabilities
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But the Muslims that survived blame the us not him. Which is what he wanted. We’ve become they’re terrorists and people of that region hate us as much as he did.i mean... most terrorist organizations have some sort of actual desire to win/make progress...
taking out a few thousands Americans in order to have hundreds of thousands of muslims killed...
Muslim countries devastated... and to be assassinated and throw out to sea by Navy seals....
I'm sure if he would have known the outcome, he would have at least tried another way...
He was a rich b*stard from families who rule people through fear and persecution. Including Arabs. He didn't shed any tears.bin laden did have a sick ass short term pla n to inflict damage...
and it was executed pretty good...
but I bet if he would have known how many muslim bodies were gonna drop in iraq/afghanistan afterwards...
he might have had second thoughts...
plus this shyt just strengthened the U.S. military with increased budget, increased intelligence and operational leeway, and currently the largest combat experienced personnel in the world
...... the Muslims that survived are stuck being ruled by governments we have more control over than before though. A white teenager with a gun is more or a threat than they are....
He didn't achieve his strategic goals.... and the current generation of Americans don't even look at him as significant. His biggest accomplishment in life only strengthened the US military and its power in the middle east. Complete failure.
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All Star
These are some of the videos that were used as evidence in the Moussaoui trial
The image of people jumping from the towers to their death instead of being burned alive is still one of the most tragic things ever filmed
The image of people jumping from the towers to their death instead of being burned alive is still one of the most tragic things ever filmed
