A. Seales:I want to be with a brotha but a lot of you would rather be by yourselves. Why not commit?

[010101]

I disagree and think you're speaking from a personal standpoint and probably as an unmarried man who has no plans to be married anytime soon.

married men tell lies

they tell lies to themselves they tell lies to their wives

the only difference is how well they lie

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[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

married men tell lies

they tell lies to themselves they tell lies to their wives

the only difference is how well they lie

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What are you referring to? Cheating? I'm not talking about cheating. I am talking about the desire to be and stay married. Most men I know who are married want to stay that way whether they are cheating or not.

Again, I don't think you've reach that stage in your life so I don't you can relate.

 

[010101]

What are you referring to? Cheating? I'm not talking about cheating. I am talking about the desire to be and stay married. Most men I know who are married want to stay that way whether they are cheating or not.

Again, I don't think you've reach that stage in your life so I don't you can relate.

okay i understand that

i don't aspire to ever hold a woman in a lie like that

pray i never reach that place

do you feel that is something to aspire to¿

do you accept that from the man in your life¿

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[BlaqkSpliffin]

@Eclipser

Thank you for your response. As I said before, I didn't really look into the study further, so my fault if I posted information that wasn't accurate. Really the main reason I brought it up, is the poster I was responding to, is known for making slick handed comments about BW, because he favors IR relationships. My response to him, was to rub it in his face, because hell, he's saying that BW are the issue(more of us aren't ready). So basically doing the exact thing you take issue with (absolving BM of accountability by pretending as if BW are not ready for marriage and that more BM are). Which I took issue with.

It is true that digging deeper into "research" and "studies" is important, because not everything is credible, and unbiased. Like I said before, IR marriage has never been an interest of mine or a topic I cared to explore deeper, or "look into", so I have not. Your motivation to do so, is because you don't like those stats being used in that way. My motivation to not do so, is because I personally don't care enough about IR marriages, except when I'm confronted with posters like Eddy Gordo, who are pawgers that often make slick-handed comments about BW, while putting nonbw on pedestals. They don't get called out(you didn't call him out on what he posted for instance either, but you noticed what I wrote). So I call them out myself.

But let's be clear, I'm not of the belief that the average BW is more suitable for marriage than the average BM. I'm not someone that believes that BW should be absolved in the part they play that contributes to them not getting married, or being ready for marriage. But, I'm also not one that is going to pretend that a lot of BM don't have work to do either. As far as that goes, I believe that both BM and BW have a lot of work to do, and that one group is not more suitable for marriage than the other.

Your posts in here are well thought out while also feeling like you taking shots somehow.

 

[the bossman]

No. It's not.

As I stated earlier we have always been the poorest but a century ago we were the MOST married demographic. And the unmarried rate has continued to rise steadily even after the Obama term shrunk the incarcerated population. All of this is on black demographics. Com which uses census data.

This trend away from marriage has been occuring in most Western countries to every population.

The fact of the matter is traditional marriage no longer serves a purpose. This is a unintended side effect of the sexual revolution and female empowerment era.

So people are gonna have to come together and form a new social contract. Whatever that may be.

The trend is increasing amongst broke folk in almost all western countries. You can see it in the video that breh posted a few posts up.Those with education making higher incomes are more likely to still see the value in it. We're moving into an era where those who are more well off end up married and stay married having strong stable families, while the working class continues falling behind more and more economically. That marriage-based family model still gives kids a better chance at growth and development than any other social contract out there

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

okay i understand that

i don't aspire to ever hold a woman in a lie like that

pray i never reach that place

do you feel that is something to aspire to¿

do you accept that from the man in your life¿

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Well it all depends on what you want out of your marriage. No man is perfect so you'll have to give on an aspect or 2.

For example, if a woman wants an extremely successful man he probably won't have a lot of time to give her and he may not be all that faith.

If you want a man who has a lot of time he may not be all that successful.

If you want a man who is faithful he may not be all that attractive or all that successfully etc etc.

To be perfectly honest, if a guy give a woman the moon and stars but respectfully steps out. I won't shed a tear for her.

However I think it's important to be honest. I don't condone lying and feel people should be honest about what they want.


One's aspiration should be about the individual's goals. I don't have a problem with any type of relationship as long as both parties are okay with it.

 

[010101]

Well it all depends on what you want out of your marriage. No man is perfect so you'll have to give on an aspect or 2.

For example, if a woman wants an extremely successful man he probably won't have a lot of time to give her and he may not be all that faith.

If you want a man who has a lot of time he may not be all that successful.

If you want a man who is faithful he may not be all that attractive or all that successfully etc etc.

To be perfectly honest, if a guy give a woman the moon and stars but respectfully steps out. I won't shed a tear for her.

However I think it's important to be honest. I don't condone lying and feel people should be honest about what they want.


One's aspiration should be about the individual's goals. I don't have a problem with any type of relationship as long as both parties are okay with it.

i appreciate your perspective*

 

[the bossman]

To be perfectly honest, if a guy give a woman the moon and stars but respectfully steps out. I won't shed a tear for her.

what constitutes as "moon and stars" tho?

 

[A1aaa]

I don't understand why these type of birds don't just date out and call it a day instead of crying and disparaging us. Either way, black men are going to continue to be the only group with a 0% infidelity/cheating rate...regardless of the slander.

*Boils yam*

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

what constitutes as "moon and stars" tho?

That's relative to the individual. Generally speaking, I would say providing an upgraded life style that the partner would not otherwise be able to obtain themselves

Examples:

Kobe / Vanessa
Tiger / the nanny
Trump / Ivana
Nikki / Felon

Again, not condoning it but I wouldn't be outraged. If she/he didn't like it leave the million dollars lifestyle and go back to working class. Why shed a tear for a person who lives a great life that they didn't have to work for because their partner got a little strange on the side? As long as the person isn't being deceived.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

The trend is increasing amongst broke folk in almost all western countries. You can see it in the video that breh posted a few posts up.Those with education making higher incomes are more likely to still see the value in it. We're moving into an era where those who are more well off end up married and stay married having strong stable families, while the working class continues falling behind more and more economically. That marriage-based family model still gives kids a better chance at growth and development than any other social contract out there

We haven't really tried other models though. Especially not in the west.

That's relative to the individual. Generally speaking, I would say providing an upgraded life style that the partner would not otherwise be able to obtain themselves

Examples:

Kobe / Vanessa
Tiger / the nanny
Trump / Ivana
Nikki / Felon

Again, not condoning it but I wouldn't be outraged. If she/he didn't like it leave the million dollars lifestyle and go back to working class. Why shed a tear for a person who lives a great life that they didn't have to work for because their partner got a little strange on the side? As long as the person isn't being deceived.

Yo why the nanny

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

We haven't really tried other models though. Especially not in the west.
Yo why the nanny

It is what it is. Let's keep it 100. If Tiger would have told her what it was she would have still been with it. He played himself by lying to her. He has to be the biggest fool on Earth. She knew he was gonna cheat but pretended like she didn't know so she could sucker him out his money. He should have wrote into the prenup "will fukk plain Jane brunettes that all look alike" and he would have been straight.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

It is what it is. Let's keep it 100. If Tiger would have told her what it was she would have still been with it. He played himself by lying to her. He has to be the biggest fool on Earth. She knew he was gonna cheat but pretended like she didn't know so she could sucker him out his money. He should have wrote into the prenup "will fukk plain Jane brunettes that all look alike" and he would have been straight.

I'm just saying they got kids. How you gonna be a nanny to your own kids.

She more like former head concubine

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

I'm just saying they got kids. How you gonna be a nanny to your own kids.

She more like former head concubine

She was a nanny before they got together breh

 

[CarmelBarbie]

Your posts in here are well thought out while also feeling like you taking shots somehow.

That’s for a reason lol.