A Song of Ice & Fire by George R.R. Martin: Book Discussion Thread

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

 

[DA_LURKA]

Ain't that George Lucas?

 

[Ozymandeas]

 

[5n0man]

@O.Red what caused the change in your perspective on that book??

The best part of that book to me is getting pov chapters from Jamie and Cercei.

The reveal that Cercei wasn't some manipulative mastermind like she comes across in other character povs, she's actually a really dumb and incompetent narcissist. Her chapters are some of the best in the series because you get to see how loony she is.


Jamie was portrayed as a scumbag in the previous books, but then you read his chapters find out he's actually a good dude who became jaded after saving kings landing and being treated like a villain for it. His chapters are also some of the best in the series.

 

[5n0man]

I think Cersei definitely blows up/burns the Sept in the books. I'm leaning towards burns because I think Cersei's enemies suffering and dying in a sea of wildfire is the type of shyt that aligns with Grrm's storytelling.

I honestly believe Cersei blowing up the Sept is one of the major plot points George gives D&D. We know Cersei knows about the wildfire reserves, and I think it's ironic and devastating to Jamie that she essentially commits the act that he killed Aerys for. Also keep in mind that Jamie is the reason she knows about the wildfire in the first place

I'll be honest once I realized that Griff was going to be completely left out of the show I stopped thinking about him I don't think he has any significant effect on anything. Sure maybe he makes a little noise in Westeros, gets a few banners added to his cause, but to completely erase him for the show tells me his arc reaches a sharp dead end on some Bernie Sanders shyt. I do think the writers liked the idea of Jon Connington having greyscale and just transferred that story onto Jorah. I also think it's reasonable that Connington switches sides when he sees Dany in his face, all of Rhaegar's sister, being the real deal.

And damn how many Winds preview chapters are there?

I think Griff will definitely win the iron throne, leading to another dance with dragons once Dany gets there.

I also think Dany will lose a dragon to
Euron instead of the night king like in the show. Euron seems like he's being built up to be a far bigger threat than he was in the show.