A Southern lawmaker called Lincoln a ‘tyrant’ and compared him to Hitler

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How long should the enslaved people have waited? 10, 20, 50 years?

Do you think the American Revolution was necessary? Other countries have won independence without bloodshed.
American REvolution wasn't necessary.
Its was launched because the english lowered taxes and the smugglers who were getting paid via black market got mad and got the public riled up to put themselves in power.

Most of the history of the country and the reasons for it doing shyt, is a lie, when you actually look at what really went down you can't help but laugh because its the same shyt as today, crooks being crooks
 

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The south should have been razed and depopulated of all that confederate shyt.
Think what would have happened to the majority of the black populace if that had happened? WE wouldn't be here at all.
The northers didn't give a damn about us, the southerners didn't give a damn about us, you razing the land and kill everyone you know they are killing us first.
 

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Pooch face is the emperor of smart dumb nikkas. Half the country seceding having a slave driven economy and a hostile attitude towards their former country and your idea of an intelligent response is to just say "o.k. peace" Not only was the civil war necessary it was inevitable.

The south should have been razed and depopulated of all that confederate shyt.

nikka sounding like Walter E Williams defending the confederacy.
 
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nikka sounding like Walter E Williams defending the confederacy.
That's his whole shtick. nikka looks like a cross between dastardly and muttley and capes for white folks. However even removing the c00nish caping from the equation he's an idiot. The south was becoming more and more displeased with the north culminating in secession. So the north had two options appease the south thus making them stronger, making the north's defeat more likely or go to war when they did while they still had a chance to win.
 

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American REvolution wasn't necessary.
Its was launched because the english lowered taxes and the smugglers who were getting paid via black market got mad and got the public riled up to put themselves in power.

Most of the history of the country and the reasons for it doing shyt, is a lie, when you actually look at what really went down you can't help but laugh because its the same shyt as today, crooks being crooks

I want the c00n @DEAD7 to answer the question. He is just parroting Ron Paul talking points regarding the Civil War.

Fighting for the most basic freedoms of human beings was not necessary, but starting a war over"taxes and representation" is a war worthy cause.
 

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I want the c00n @DEAD7 to answer the question. He is just parroting Ron Paul talking points regarding the Civil War.

Fighting for the most basic freedoms of human beings was not necessary, but starting a war over"taxes and representation" is a war worthy cause.
But the civil war by Abraham Lincoln's own mouth was started because of money they wanted taxes increase on the southern imports for the benefit of northern manufacturing.
Like most of the black "advanements" in the US, whites only help us when its in their own benefit.

Abraham Lincoln: First Inaugural Address. U.S. Inaugural Addresses. 1989
Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that—I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

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Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes. 4
I now reiterate these sentiments, and in doing so I only press upon the public attention the most conclusive evidence of which the case is susceptible that the property, peace, and security of no section are to be in any wise endangered by the now incoming Administration. I add, too, that all the protection which, consistently with the Constitution and the laws, can be given will be cheerfully given to all the States when lawfully demanded, for whatever cause—as cheerfully to one section as to another. 5
There is much controversy about the delivering up of fugitives from service or labor. The clause I now read is as plainly written in the Constitution as any other of its provisions:No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall in consequence of any law or regulation therein be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due. 6
It is scarcely questioned that this provision was intended by those who made it for the reclaiming of what we call fugitive slaves; and the intention of the lawgiver is the law. All members of Congress swear their support to the whole Constitution—to this provision as much as to any other. To the proposition, then, that slaves whose cases come within the terms of this clause "shall be delivered up" their oaths are unanimous. Now, if they would make the effort in good temper, could they not with nearly equal unanimity frame and pass a law by means of which to keep good that unanimous oath? 7
There is some difference of opinion whether this clause should be enforced by national or by State authority, but surely that difference is not a very material one. If the slave is to be surrendered, it can be of but little consequence to him or to others by which authority it is done. And should anyone in any case be content that his oath shall go unkept on a merely unsubstantial controversy as to how it shall be kept? 8
Again: In any law upon this subject ought not all the safeguards of liberty known in civilized and humane jurisprudence to be introduced, so that a free man be not in any case surrendered as a slave? And might it not be well at the same time to provide by law for the enforcement of that clause in the Constitution which guarantees that "the citizens of each State shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several States"? 9
I take the official oath to-day with no mental reservations and with no purpose to construe the Constitution or laws by any hypercritical rules; and while I do not choose now to specify particular acts of Congress as proper to be enforced, I do suggest that it will be much safer for all, both in official and private stations, to conform to and abide by all those acts which stand unrepealed than to violate any of them trusting to find impunity in having them held to be unconstitutional. 10
It is seventy-two years since the first inauguration of a President under our National Constitution. During that period fifteen different and greatly distinguished citizens have in succession administered the executive branch of the Government. They have conducted it through many perils, and generally with great success. Yet, with all this scope of precedent, I now enter upon the same task for the brief constitutional term of four years under great and peculiar difficulty. A disruption of the Federal Union, heretofore only menaced, is now formidably attempted. 11
I hold that in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual. Perpetuity is implied, if not expressed, in the fundamental law of all national governments. It is safe to assert that no government proper ever had a provision in its organic law for its own termination. Continue to execute all the express provisions of our National Constitution, and the Union will endure forever, it being impossible to destroy it except by some action not provided for in the instrument itself. 12
Again: If the United States be not a government proper, but an association of States in the nature of contract merely, can it, as a contract, be peaceably unmade by less than all the parties who made it? One party to a contract may violate it—break it, so to speak—but does it not require all to lawfully rescind it? 13
Descending from these general principles, we find the proposition that in legal contemplation the Union is perpetual confirmed by the history of the Union itself. The Union is much older than the Constitution. It was formed, in fact, by the Articles of Association in 1774. It was matured and continued by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. It was further matured, and the faith of all the then thirteen States expressly plighted and engaged that it should be perpetual, by the Articles of Confederation in 1778. And finally, in 1787, one of the declared objects for ordaining and establishing the Constitution was "to form a more perfect Union." 14
But if destruction of the Union by one or by a part only of the States be lawfully possible, the Union is less perfect than before the Constitution, having lost the vital element of perpetuity. 15
It follows from these views that no State upon its own mere motion can lawfully get out of the Union; that resolves and ordinances to that effect are legally void, and that acts of violence within any State or States against the authority of the United States are insurrectionary or revolutionary, according to circumstances. 16
I therefore consider that in view of the Constitution and the laws the Union is unbroken, and to the extent of my ability, I shall take care, as the Constitution itself expressly enjoins upon me, that the laws of the Union be faithfully executed in all the States. Doing this I deem to be only a simple duty on my part, and I shall perform it so far as practicable unless my rightful masters, the American people, shall withhold the requisite means or in some authoritative manner direct the contrary. I trust this will not be regarded as a menace, but only as the declared purpose of the Union that it will constitutionally defend and maintain itself. 17
In doing this there needs to be no bloodshed or violence, and there shall be none unless it be forced upon the national authority. The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere. Where hostility to the United States in any interior locality shall be so great and universal as to prevent competent resident citizens from holding the Federal offices, there will be no attempt to force obnoxious strangers among the people for that object. While the strict legal right may exist in the Government to enforce the exercise of these offices, the attempt to do so would be so irritating and so nearly impracticable withal that I deem it better to forego for the time the uses of such offices.
 

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When I was still a teller at my bank we had a guy who would come in and say that he didn't want any 20s or 5s because Andrew Jackson and Lincoln were tyrants lol. dude was weird as fukk
 

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Think what would have happened to the majority of the black populace if that had happened? WE wouldn't be here at all.
The northers didn't give a damn about us, the southerners didn't give a damn about us, you razing the land and kill everyone you know they are killing us first.

razed and depopulated of all that confederate shyt


I wasn't talking about offing black folk
 

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Yup. The confederacy and its symbols should have come to represent what Nazi symbols represent to Modern day Germans.
Shame and humiliation.

shyt is crazy to me... I mean it's a damn traitors flag. But this is the usa... :francis:

Truthfully if these confederate douchewads had just been completely wiped out.. things in this country would be real different.
 

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razed and depopulated of all that confederate shyt


I wasn't talking about offing black folk
What makes you think the US would kill off white folks before they killed off blacks.
Thats some pie in the sky, divorced for reality shyt.

The US government treated confederate prisoners of war better than they treated black americans in the union army.
 

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I asked why exactly was the war necessary? and these were the responses...

Pooch face is the emperor of smart dumb nikkas.

The south should have been razed and depopulated of all that confederate shyt.

nikka sounding like Walter E Williams defending the confederacy.

You're an uncle Tom

That's his whole shtick. nikka looks like a cross between dastardly and muttley and capes for white folks. However even removing the c00nish caping from the equation he's an idiot.

I want the c00n @DEAD7 to answer the question.

Cats in here poo pooing on the Civil War :russ:

Higher learning :russ:
Exactly the kind of shyt some of the above posters said they didnt want to see in Higher Learning:mjlol:
:wow:I love ya'll nikkas man
 
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