According to fans/media "super teams" are ok as long as the team actually constructed it.

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Via trades "they" initiated or players "they" drafted.

And the players merely have to go along with it. Which doesn't really make sense to me but :manny: There were "super teams" in the 80's because players had no control over where they went. You had role players who could've been option 1 or 2 on other teams. Free agency in this era is so convoluted and expansion has watered down the talent pool, that teams can't really construct a "super team" anymore unless they draft all of the players.
 

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In all the major American sports (except baseball) you have a hard salary cap. In theory that prohibits teams from signing all stars at every position.

So whether you formed your “super team” through the draft or free agency, it ought to be fair game.

The issue is if you create your “super team” by suppressing player earnings, because that has ramifications for other players in your league. Whether players do it voluntarily or ownership does it.

This is why the MLB players union refused to allow Alex Rodriguez to restructure his contract to make less money to join the Red Sox. Obviously MLB has no hard cap. But the idea applies everywhere. You wouldn’t want Luka Doncic to take a below market value contract to go form a super team with Jokic in Denver because that’s gonna affect the earnings of Wembanyama or Anthony Edwards or someone like that down the line.
 

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There’s nothing “wrong” with super teams in and of itself. It’s just when “winning” is weaponized to inflate one players capabilities over another without any context or consistency.

i.e. If you’re top 5 and your “sidekick” is also top 5’ish (‘01-‘04 Kobe,’11 & ‘12 Wade, ‘17-‘19 Steph/KD, ‘20 & ‘21 Davis, etc.,) you should win more than the next top 5 nygga who got Troy Hudson, Luol Deng, or Tyler Herro as their co-star.

Same if you got two top 15 guys while most everyone else don’t got a top 30. Doesn’t mean you down play their wins but don’t bash other’s failures when you know they don’t got the same squad
 

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In all the major American sports (except baseball) you have a hard salary cap. In theory that prohibits teams from signing all stars at every position.

So whether you formed your “super team” through the draft or free agency, it ought to be fair game.

The issue is if you create your “super team” by suppressing player earnings, because that has ramifications for other players in your league. Whether players do it voluntarily or ownership does it.

This is why the MLB players union refused to allow Alex Rodriguez to restructure his contract to make less money to join the Red Sox. Obviously MLB has no hard cap. But the idea applies everywhere. You wouldn’t want Luka Doncic to take a below market value contract to go form a super team with Jokic in Denver because that’s gonna affect the earnings of Wembanyama or Anthony Edwards or someone like that down the line.
Isn’t that also why they were pissed that Trout didn’t go for more money than he ended up getting?
 

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Isn’t that also why they were pissed that Trout didn’t go for more money than he ended up getting?
I don’t remember the Trout situation but that sounds right.

It seems every time people criticize Trout, it’s for not leaving for a bigger market team to win. But maybe the money was part of it.

I mean, players don’t always take the biggest offer on the table. I think Aaron Judge had a larger offer in SF and SD.

There’s always going to be some leeway.

If Golden State paid Kevin Durant 30M and the Thunder were offering 35M, that’s probably not a big deal. I don’t know at which point you’re taking TOO little to where it feels wrong or shady. That’s a subjective thing.
 
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