Active shooter, hostage situation at veterans facility in Yountville prompts lockdown, large police

[.r.]

Mass shooting as American as racism.

 

[Lord Beasley]

This one's fishy

 

[fact]

Somebody said it best the other day, don’t remember where, but it is the libertarian motto, police are there to protect property, if they serve and protect you, directly or indirectly, it is because you either own property/goods or you are incedently in the way of a someone trying to do rob or do harm to someone’s possessions. If they stop someone from beating on you, it is at the behest of how it will reflect on someone’s goods/property. It is a broad brush, but if you look at the macro, it is clear.

 

[88m3]

i fukking hate this.
have yall ever talked to or read about the ww2 vets? i have many times
wonderful people. truly the greatest generation.
somewhere around here i have a book of love letters from WW2 service members to their boos


and now we wait for Rs and the NRA to disparage these heroes
i can see it from here


some deflect change the subject bullshyt.
ptsd yadda yadda blame this that or the other not us!

what the fukk kind of shythole is this country that we dont take care of our children, our elderly and our vets????

When I was a child I would get to, most of them has passed away now. One of my grandparents was in the navy and his ship got torpedoed and sank but survived. He passed away before I was born but really lived life to the fullest for the time period.
Mostly for the better WWII and their generation shaped the way we view our country today and the world as it is.


Lately refugees as well...


This country really needs to turn things around.

 

[BaileyPark31]

so i'm gonna cut through the sarcasm and just say what i mean.
i do not believe that teachers, docs, nurses, janitors should be armed in response to mass shootings.
the best protection against this phenomenon is removing auto and semi auto rifles from the civilian population.

i believe that our institutions are strong enough to prevent the potential tierney of an administration from
fully turning on the population to the point that AR's need to be in the hands of civilians.

miss me with the "regulated militia" shyt.
what the fukk is your militia gonna do against the military if shyt really gets that crazy?
in the mean time you have non-stop mass murder.

a military subjugation of the american public writ large is not possible.
our military would never turn on the american public.
what we do have to worry about is the militarization of the police.
this is how they get around not being able to use the military on american soil.
their solution: give the police military equipment and tactics.

that is a problem that we must addressed in the realm of law and public opinion.
the results of police abuse are felt mostly by minorities and the poor and they are not spending money to propagate the gun agenda.

the people who are least oppressed by the state are the ones who want the most protection from it.
they are sitting on the sidelines watching poor, brown people get fukked in the ass by police with military gear and don't want it to happen to them.
so they want more guns.

or they are afraid of the people who are being abused by militarized police and want to have the same gear or better.


i don't have an AR, i have never really wanted one but i have to admit that they are cool as fukk and i would love to have a ton of them.
but i don't think that my enjoyment of owning it would outweigh the demonstrable downside of the status quo.

"thoughts and prayers" aint gonna bring back dead people.
getting rid of weapons that were made to kill people will stop people form dying.

Well said.

 

[88m3]

Suspected gunman, 3 women found dead after hostages taken at Calif. veterans home

all the hostages(staff) died

 

[ORDER_66]

Suspected gunman, 3 women found dead after hostages taken at Calif. veterans home

all the hostages(staff) died

wtf was going on???

 

[Professor Emeritus]

give the doctors and nurses guns.

Wasn't Trump's idea to literally give vets guns to guard these places?

If shooter turns out to be a vet....

We have armed guards protect our banks and jewelry stores, why are those places more important than our veteran care facilities? We absolutely must arm every nurse and doctor and janitor there.

How often do you actually see an armed guard at a bank?

Banks have way backed off of armed guards because they didn't do any good, just made bank robberies more violent. Nowadays only like 5-10% of banks have armed guards at any point in time.

FBI bank robbery data shows armed guards increase risk of violence

 

[Serious]

so i'm gonna cut through the sarcasm and just say what i mean.
i do not believe that teachers, docs, nurses, janitors should be armed in response to mass shootings.
the best protection against this phenomenon is removing auto and semi auto rifles from the civilian population.

i believe that our institutions are strong enough to prevent the potential tierney of an administration from
fully turning on the population to the point that AR's need to be in the hands of civilians.

miss me with the "regulated militia" shyt.
what the fukk is your militia gonna do against the military if shyt really gets that crazy?
in the mean time you have non-stop mass murder.

a military subjugation of the american public writ large is not possible.
our military would never turn on the american public.
what we do have to worry about is the militarization of the police.
this is how they get around not being able to use the military on american soil.
their solution: give the police military equipment and tactics.

that is a problem that we must addressed in the realm of law and public opinion.
the results of police abuse are felt mostly by minorities and the poor and they are not spending money to propagate the gun agenda.

the people who are least oppressed by the state are the ones who want the most protection from it
they are sitting on the sidelines watching poor, brown people get fukked in the ass by police with military gear and don't want it to happen to them.
so they want more guns.

or they are afraid of the people who are being abused by militarized police and want to have the same gear or better.


i don't have an AR, i have never really wanted one but i have to admit that they are cool as fukk and i would love to have a ton of them.
but i don't think that my enjoyment of owning it would outweigh the demonstrable downside of the status quo.

"thoughts and prayers" aint gonna bring back dead people.
getting rid of weapons that were made to kill people will stop people form dying.

I see someone might be making a push for HL POTY.....

 

[mc_brew]

so i'm gonna cut through the sarcasm and just say what i mean.
i do not believe that teachers, docs, nurses, janitors should be armed in response to mass shootings.
the best protection against this phenomenon is removing auto and semi auto rifles from the civilian population.

i believe that our institutions are strong enough to prevent the potential tierney of an administration from
fully turning on the population to the point that AR's need to be in the hands of civilians.

miss me with the "regulated militia" shyt.
what the fukk is your militia gonna do against the military if shyt really gets that crazy?
in the mean time you have non-stop mass murder.

a military subjugation of the american public writ large is not possible.
our military would never turn on the american public.
what we do have to worry about is the militarization of the police.
this is how they get around not being able to use the military on american soil.
their solution: give the police military equipment and tactics.

that is a problem that we must addressed in the realm of law and public opinion.
the results of police abuse are felt mostly by minorities and the poor and they are not spending money to propagate the gun agenda.

the people who are least oppressed by the state are the ones who want the most protection from it.
they are sitting on the sidelines watching poor, brown people get fukked in the ass by police with military gear and don't want it to happen to them.
so they want more guns.

or they are afraid of the people who are being abused by militarized police and want to have the same gear or better.


i don't have an AR, i have never really wanted one but i have to admit that they are cool as fukk and i would love to have a ton of them.
but i don't think that my enjoyment of owning it would outweigh the demonstrable downside of the status quo.

"thoughts and prayers" aint gonna bring back dead people.
getting rid of weapons that were made to kill people will stop people form dying.

while we are cutting through the sarcasm, let's be honest, most white people want guns in society because they see it as guns protect them from blacks and blacks are killing each other with guns... if guns were banned in society (not saying they can be or that anyone was seriously proposing that) then white people would be scared to death of what they think blacks would do to them and the black on black death toll would drop dramatically....

How often do you actually see an armed guard at a bank?

that was sarcasm.... wayne lapierre's position is we should arm teachers because we have armed guards protecting other valuables in society.... he says by not arming teachers we as a society are saying our children aren't that important... you and i know that is deflection and bullshyt, but that is the position of the right.....

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

I see someone might be making a push for HL POTY.....

imagine...