African American race to be extinct one day?

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I tend to take the view that race doesn't matter that much simply because a lot of what makes someone black or white or whatever is how they self-identify themselves. It might sound strange, but a person is only as black as they believe they are. That implies that the culture a person identifies with is more important than their technical racial ancestry.

Interracial marriage (black + other) doesn't occur at the high rates that people seem to think it does but if we are talking strictly about demographics, the biggest threat to the population of black people in the United States is if people who are mixed race (with black) stopped identifying themselves as "black" and started identifying themselves as "mixed" with little indication of their racial ancestry beyond that.

I haven't seen any compelling evidence that abortion and birth control have as much of an effect on the birth rate of black people specifically as is being implied in this thread. What I can tell you anecdotally is that people who have abortions also tend to have higher birth rates in general (3+ children). The biggest indicator of how many children a woman has/will have is her education level so if birth rate among black women is low, it's more likely that more black women are pursuing higher and post graduate education on average than it is that they are having more abortions.
 

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Actually, that link proves the point that the heart begins in the 1st month.



Doesn't circulation imply an heart?

no it doesn't and how about you ask your mom if it's possible to see a heart beat via ultrasound the first month.

have you gotten a girl pregnant before? something tells me you don't know how this works. online sources vary and are not the most accurate. Im not going to continue this discussion.

my initial quote remains.

that's only after the first trimester. before that, it's a glob of goo.

we had this discussion in anatomy, and my argument was that it wasn't alive until there was a heart beat.
 
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the real c00ns are the ones who approve of Black genocide. Not the ones who want Black babies to live.

Black babies are not killed by sbortion, you unlearned buffoon. You sound like these right wing cacs who cynically cite the "black holocaust" in their anti abortion tirades. Study up on what abortion actually entails. It is not the murder of babies.
 

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no it doesn't and how about you ask your mom if it's possible to see a heart beat via ultrasound the first month.

have you gotten a girl pregnant before? something tells me you don't know how this works. online sources vary and are not the most accurate. Im not going to continue this discussion.

my initial quote remains.

:mindblown: Your initial quote remains even though your own evidence disproves it? Yours says the 1st month, some say 6 weeks. Ok, we can end the discussion. How it "works" is what the evidence says how it works.
 

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Black babies are not killed by sbortion, you unlearned buffoon. You sound like these right wing cacs who cynically cite the "black holocaust" in their anti abortion tirades. Study up on what abortion actually entails. It is not the murder of babies.
I have studied up on what abortion entails. What's complicated about what it entails? You're taking the life of fetus. That's what it entails. And Black people are doing it at an alarming rate. If it's not the murder of babies then what is it? A clump of cells? A clump cells that has a heart, brain waves? That's beyond a clump of cells? If it's not then show me why it's not.
 

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:mindblown: Your initial quote remains even though your own evidence disproves it? Yours says the 1st month, some say 6 weeks. Ok, we can end the discussion. How it "works" is what the evidence says how it works.

tf:what: YOU are the one that said 4 weeks/1 month, I told you to ASK SOMEBODY or something.

:mindblown: whether 4, 6, 8 weeks what is your argument to me saying it's not alive until the heart is beating anyways????????? you're arguing irrelevant details with no direction in the grand scheme
 

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tf:what: YOU are the one that said 4 weeks/1 month, I told you to ASK SOMEBODY or something.

:mindblown: whether 4, 6, 8 weeks what is your argument to me saying it's not alive until the heart is beating anyways????????? you're arguing irrelevant details with no direction in the grand scheme

You're the one who said life begins when the heart begins. Your link said 4 weeks, correct? So why would I have to ask somebody when your evidence shows the heart begins at 4 weeks? I never said life begins when the heart begins. That's your belief. All I'm saying is if your belief is correct (hypothetically) then you have to conclude that life begins in the 1st month. You can't keep your initial belief if science disproves it.
 

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I tend to take the view that race doesn't matter that much simply because a lot of what makes someone black or white or whatever is how they self-identify themselves. It might sound strange, but a person is only as black as they believe they are. That implies that the culture a person identifies with is more important than their technical racial ancestry.

Interracial marriage (black + other) doesn't occur at the high rates that -people seem to think it does but if we are talking strictly about demographics, the biggest threat to the population of black people in the United States is if people who are mixed race (with black) stopped identifying themselves as "black" and started identifying themselves as "mixed" with little indication of their racial ancestry beyond that.

-I haven't seen any compelling evidence that abortion and birth control have as much of an effect on the birth rate of black people specifically as is being implied in this thread. What I can tell you anecdotally is that people who have abortions also tend to have higher birth rates in general (3+ children). The biggest indicator of how many children a woman has/will have is her education level so if birth rate among black women is low, it's more likely that more black women are pursuing higher and post graduate education on average than it is that they are having more abortions.


-I sort of see where you going with this cause alot of whitewashed blacks take this view on race and seem to be genuinely happy with ther lives...they obviously adopting this mindsset cause they are ashamed of being black,have given up on their race, and decided to take the easy way out and sellout out though...

-Interracial relationships among blacks is kinda exaggerated especially when you consider according to polls way more than 25% of latinos ) mary outside their race(which is considerbly more than us but never get any headlines for it...But even I gotta admit the IR has become a norm in the AA communityi which is disturbing....Not that long ago an IR couples would stand out in the AA community now I can barely leave the house without seeing several IR couples(involving blacks).
If a thousand plus of black babies are aborted each day in Amerikkkka like those stats suggest you gotttab be a fool to doubt that aint significantl affecing the growth of the black population.:ufdup:
 
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-I sort of see where you going with this cause alot of whitewashed blacks take this view on race and seem to be genuinely happy with ther lives...they obviously adopting this mindsset cause they are ashamed of being black,have given up on their race, and decided to take the easy way out and sellout out though...

-Interracial relationships among blacks is kinda exaggerated especially when you consider according to polls way more than 25% of latinos ) mary outside their race(which is considerbly more than us but never get any headlines for it...But even I gotta admit the IR has become a norm in the AA communityi which is disturbing....Not that long ago an IR couples would stand out in the AA community now I can barely leave the house without seeing several IR couples(involving blacks).
If a thousand plus of black babies are aborted each day in Amerikkkka like those stats suggest you gotttab be a fool to doubt that aint significantl affecing the growth of the black population.:ufdup:

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Please, for the love of all that is sane, stop spreading this lie that the black population in america is shrinking. The race with the lowest birth rate in the us is the white race. Blacks presently have the highest birth rate in America, surpassing Hispanics in 2012. Additionally, whites in Europe are presently threatened by an influx of non whites from Africa and south east Asia. There are more blacks on this planet than ther are whites, and I don't see interracial dating taking foot in the motherland.

Whites are the ones dying out and on the verge of extinction. The level of misinformation in this thread is depressing. Calm down.
 
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