AI Cheating Is So Out of Hand In America’s Schools That the Blue Books Are Coming Back

[David_TheMan]

Yeah this shyt takes away the ability to think for many people. Back in law school we had this 8 hour take home exam and another class that was 24 hours for our final (them shyts were a mentally taxing bytch). A bunch of essay questions. I can only imagine now someone could just type the fact pattern into ChatGPT and give a prompt like “answer this question using IRAC format for a law school exam yadda yadda” and come out with perfectly written A+ essays in seconds.

Law school isn't the best example. It was literally created to keep people out of the field and the Stanford model was literally created in a method not to prepare students for actual practice.

 

[MustafaSTL]

Law school isn't the best example. It was literally created to keep people out of the field and the Stanford model was literally created in a method not to prepare students for actual practice.

I can tell you more than anyone that law school doesn’t teach you how to be a lawyer, it teaches you the black letter law. My point is the same about how you can bypass critical thinking in breaking down a fact pattern to write out a great essay. The difference between most people getting top grades, getting on law review, and working in big law, was their ability to write final exams. ChatGPT could spit out that same result in seconds. But like I said this is only for take home final exams instead of the regular 3-4 hour sit down exams. Plus you need to use the same IRAC format you learned in law school to write out a passable score in the essay portion of the bar exam.

 

[WIA20XX]

When there’s a will, there’s a way

The Indians and Chinese been cheating way before chatgpt. Korean foreign nationals yapping in the middle of finals ..

For those of us who didn't cheat, it's not like the work place ever looks like the school room either. The last time I needed to know the Adiabatic expansion of an ideal gas was on the exam.

Even in the technical fields, you're rarely working with the fundamentals or doing cutting edge stuff. I've yet to meet an engineer that used calculus on the daily. There might be some, but it ain't most.

A lot of the time businesses and organizations DON'T WANT YOU TO APPLY what you've learned in school. They want you to do things their way. And so many of them close up shop because they fail to adapt... Why did they even hire new grads? (And a lot of top businesses stopped even doing that)

If nothing at the work place ever looks like the classroom, why do we go to school?

Everything about their system is rigged and messed up.

Lemme chill before I catch an aneurysm

 

[David_TheMan]

I can tell you more than anyone that law school doesn’t teach you how to be a lawyer, it teaches you the black letter law. My point is the same about how you can bypass critical thinking in breaking down a fact pattern to write out a great essay. The difference between most people getting top grades, getting on law review, and working in big law, was their ability to write final exams. ChatGPT could spit out that same result in seconds. But like I said this is only for take home final exams instead of the regular 3-4 hour sit down exams. Plus you need to use the same IRAC format you learned in law school to write out a passable score in the essay portion of the bar exam.

I'm not talking about the test taking here.
I'm talking about the concept.
Law schools are one of the areas where you aren't learning your profession. Not a good example when trying to big up the value of college . That was my point atleast

 

[Dontdoit3]

No one should fail a single class with chat gpt around. I wish it was around when I was in college. Free tutoring.

 

[David_TheMan]

The Indians and Chinese been cheating way before chatgpt. Korean foreign nationals yapping in the middle of finals ..

For those of us who didn't cheat, it's not like the work place ever looks like the school room either. The last time I needed to know the Adiabatic expansion of an ideal gas was on the exam.

Even in the technical fields, you're rarely working with the fundamentals or doing cutting edge stuff. I've yet to meet an engineer that used calculus on the daily. There might be some, but it ain't most.

A lot of the time businesses and organizations DON'T WANT YOU TO APPLY what you've learned in school. They want you to do things their way. And so many of them close up shop because they fail to adapt... Why did they even hire new grads? (In a lot of top businesses stopped even doing that)

If nothing at the work place ever looks like the classroom, why do we go to school?

Everything about their system is rigged and messed up.

Lemme chill before I catch an aneurysm

Preach

 

[Zime]

You could always run the article through a AI detection program that most universities have and if it hits over 80 its an automatic failure.

shyt is easy to track, but hey moral panic is what gets increased funding and new clicks so , here we are.

There’s a trick to bypass that in Word to make it show 0%.

 

[010101]

atrophying brains*

 

[David_TheMan]

There’s a trick to bypass that in Word to make it show 0%.

What adding invisible characters

 

[MikelArteta]

No one should fail a single class with chat gpt around. I wish it was around when I was in college. Free tutoring.

yup i was horrible at math would ahve been dope to just upload a image and say explain it to me like a dummy

 

[maxamusa]

If you aint cheating; you aint trying.

 

[MikelArteta]

If you aint cheating; you aint trying.

we lie we cheat we steal

 

[Dontdoit3]

yup i was horrible at math would ahve been dope to just upload a image and say explain it to me like a dummy

Mine was organic chemistry. I hated that subject. And the tutoring did not help. Oh well there goes med school lol

 

[WIA20XX]

Mine was organic chemistry. I hated that subject. And the tutoring did not help. Oh well there goes med school lol

Like when's the last time your Doctor did a substitution reaction?

Their System is effed up!