pacers lost
al jefferson - 3 years 41 mil
roy hibbert - 4 years 58 mil
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pacers lost
al jefferson - 3 years 41 mil
roy hibbert - 4 years 58 mil

Al Jeff is a black hole and a 3 option on a good team
Pretty much, empty stat guy that makes no real impact. With how weak the big man position is, it should be no way his teams are so bad with the numbers he puts up
Smh @ all of this. Charlotte's a 15 win team without him. No surprise they took off when they let him go to work a few months back.He could b the first big off the bench on a championship team. I think. .one u force feed when his in.
I'm trying to figure out, what exactly is it the Hornets are missing?
Defensive 4 right?
What the Fukk? They're scoring more points on higher efficiency? How does it matter if it's off if missed rebounds, dunks, or whatever?
I already agreed that Big Al is probably the most skilled one on one post players in the post but that doesn't really matter. The rule changes and defensive adjustments since the Shaq era make it very hard for back to the baskets scorers to translate to wins. Teams are better at denying entry passes, using help defense to alter shots, and tilting the floor to swarm a big man.
The game is more PnR oriented with the ability to pass from the post and space the floor to be a better use for big men. The ability to finish the shots at a consistent and efficient clip is far more important than offensive versatility.
Blake Griffin, Davis, and Howard need far less attempts to score roughly the same amount of points and are also better at other aspects on the floor so they're better big men, IMO.
Big Al is probably the best one on one post scorer in the league in the style of a pickup game. No help defense, doubles, and all the time in the world to get you in the post and beat you down. That doesn't translate well into impact in today's game though and no team with Big Al as their number one option is getting to the conference finals.

They need a better 2 guard (not a lot of those though...maybe Lance Stephenson in free agency?). An upgrade at PG too (Kyle Lowry?). If they had Kemba and Henderson coming off the bench and MKG finally develops a respectable 3-point shot, they'd be really tough.
You littered this thread with atrocious posting.![]()
I didn't say Al was a better player than all of them.Nikka, tell me what GM on the planet wouldn't swap Big Al for either Dwight, Noah, Marc Gasol, Anthony Davis, or Blake Griffin?
It's harder to build a championship squad around a back to the basket big man in today's league. All the best big men are efficient scorers who have elite rebounding or defensive impact plus usually are dangerous in the PnR.

Just because their FG% is high, doesn't mean they're efficient, since no offense is actually ran through them. When all you shoot are dunks and layups, of course your FG% is gonna be high. Al and Blake Griffin are the only guys you listed who are the focal points of their offenses. That's a whole different level of responsibility.