Aloe Blacc's Song Was Played 168 Million Times on Pandora. He Received $4,000…

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I am many things: a singer, a musician, a businessman, and a philanthropist. But above all, I am a songwriter.

At our core, songwriters are creators. We challenge ourselves and others to reflect on the world around us. And the work we produce has power—power to capture people’s emotions and imaginations like few other art forms, power to transcend traditional barriers of age, language and culture, and power to transform a conversation and generate positive social change.

But does our work as songwriters have value? Coming from someone who has spent his life working hard to master his craft in order to touch the lives of others, that may seem like an absurd question. But in today’s rapidly changing music marketplace, the answer is increasingly unclear. Just this week, Taylor Swift removed her music from Spotify—not because she doesn’t want you to stream her songs, but because she wants to be compensated fairly for her work. She wants Spotify to treat her work as though it has value. This problem ought to cause anyone who cares about the future of music—professionals and fans alike—to stand up and take note. Let me explain why.

First, unlike most people in creative industries, songwriters seem to have less control over our work than ever before. Knock off a handbag design from a high-end fashion house or use a sports team’s logo in your new t-shirt line, and expect a lawsuit in short order. And good luck copying a big tech company’s patented innovation. You need express permission from the original creators to use or copy their work before you resell it. That’s how they protect the value of their work.

But the world doesn’t work that way for songwriters. By law, we have to let any business use our songs that asks, so long as they agree to pay a rate that, more often than not, was not set in a free market. We don’t have a choice. As such, we have no power to protect the value of the music we create.

The abhorrently low rates songwriters are paid by streaming services—enabled by outdated federal regulations—are yet another indication our work is being devalued in today’s marketplace.

Consider the fact that it takes roughly one million spins on Pandora for a songwriter to earn just $90. Avicii’s release “Wake Me Up!” that I co-wrote and sing, for example, was the most streamed song in Spotify history and the 13th most played song on Pandora since its release in 2013, with more than 168 million streams in the US. And yet, that yielded only $12,359 in Pandora domestic royalties— which were then split among three songwriters and our publishers. In return for co-writing a major hit song, I’ve earned less than $4,000 domestically from the largest digital music service.

If that’s what’s now considered a streaming “success story,” is it any wonder that so many songwriters are now struggling to make ends meet?

The reality is that people are consuming music in a completely different way today. Purchasing and downloading songs have given way to streaming, and as a result, the revenue streams that songwriters relied upon for years to make a living are now drying up.

But the irony of the situation is that our music is actually being enjoyed by more people in more places and played across more platforms (largely now digital) than ever before. Our work clearly does have value, of course, or else it would not be in such high demand. So why aren’t songwriters compensated more fairly in the marketplace?

I firmly believe there must be a way for innovative new music services to succeed in the marketplace without undervaluing the contribution of songwriters. And, thankfully, I am not alone in that view.

Through performing rights societies, this summer songwriters successfully convinced the US Department of Justice to open a formal review of the ASCAP and BMI consent decrees that govern how the vast majority of American songwriters are compensated for our work. The world has changed dramatically since this regulatory framework was first est@blished in 1941, but the consent decrees haven’t been updated since 2001—before the iPod even hit stores.

Updating the nation’s antiquated music licensing system will better serve the needs of not only music creators, like me, but businesses that use our music, consumers and the global marketplace for music. But the digital music services that see a financial advantage in maintaining the status quo are f!ghting hard to obstruct any meaningful reform.

I, for one, can no longer stand on the sidelines and watch as the vast majority of songwriters are left out in the cold, while streaming company executives build their fortunes in stock options and bonuses on the back of our hard work. Songwriting is truly a labor of love, one that often does not result in wealth. But I know the work we create has real value. And I believe policymakers will one day recognize that a system that allows digital streaming services to enjoy enormous profits while music creators struggle is imbalanced and broken.

Until that day comes, I will do my part to try to convince people that the music they love won’t exist without us, and that we, as songwriters, cannot continue to exist like this. And you can do your part to protect the music you love by buying albums and urging streaming services to uphold the value of songwriting. After all, if songwriters cannot afford to make music, who will?

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/aloe-bl...y-songwriters/



:heh: meanwhile these rappers are telling ducktales that they are caking from streaming music 2:30 mark
 
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They are caking. They keep 100% of the royalties. Aloe Blacc part of a big label. Think of a dude selling CD's out the trunk and getting all $10 when Nelly was making a rumored 10 cents off every CD. Nothing has changed in the streaming age.

:why: hell is u talk bout

I told yall bout this shyt awhile back in thus thread

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-evils-of-vevo.264031/

NO ARTIST especially the Indy ones are getting 100% of the royalties....the Pandora..spodify and YouTube only do business with u iffy go thru a digital aggregator aka distributor like Tuncore..Ingrooves etc.

And when u speak of royalties...think ADVERTISING too.....a lot of these ads that RUN while the stream is playing had revenue that the Artist/songwriter is not seeing
 
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They are caking. They keep 100% of the royalties. Aloe Blacc part of a big label. Think of a dude selling CD's out the trunk and getting all $10 when Nelly was making a rumored 10 cents off every CD. Nothing has changed in the streaming age.

nikka, the article just said that they WEREN'T caking :comeon:

And u got the nerve to use Nelly selling CDs out his trunk as an example :heh:

Thecoli.com y'all
 

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:why: hell is u talk bout

I told yall bout this shyt awhile back in thus thread

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-evils-of-vevo.264031/

NO ARTIST especially the Indy ones are getting 100% of the royalties....the Pandora..spodify and YouTube only do business with u iffy go thru a digital aggregator aka distributor like Tuncore..Ingrooves etc.

And when u speak of royalties...think ADVERTISING too.....a lot of these ads that RUN while the stream is playing had revenue that the Artist/songwriter is not seeing

They still get 90% or so.

Tunecore does not take royalties (or so they claim.).

on iTunes artists get 70-80 cents on the 1.25 via independent distribution

Trust me, I know an artist that made $8k off of 250k plays on Spotify alone.
 

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They still get 90% or so.

Tunecore does not take royalties (or so they claim.).

on iTunes artists get 70-80 cents on the 1.25 via independent distribution

Trust me, I know an artist that made $8k off of 250k plays on Spotify alone.

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Dude..he is talking about STREAING ROYALTIES!!!!.....TUNECORE IS NOT A STREAMING SERVICE...GOTTDAMIT!!!

TUNECORE IS A DISTRIBUTOR aka DIGITAL AGGREGATORS

....THIER BUSINESS MODEL IS THEY TAKE THE MONEY UPFRONT UNLIKE OTHER DISTRIBITORS (DIGITAL AGGREGATORS) such as INGROOVES which gets the back end royalties....

AND WHAT DA FUKK U TAKLING ABOUT ITUNES for they ARE NOT A STREAMING SERVICE AS WELL.....DUMMY!!!

PANDORA (a STREAMING SERVICE dummy!) was being dissed by Radiohead lead singer for having artists split up a measly 11 cent on the dollar while the rest went to Pandora, the digital aggregator and the publishers....

this is what the average artist is making off of YOUTUBE these days..THE MOST POPULAR STREAMING SERVICE to date in regards to visuals and audio

read it and weep:

Based on grade school math, artists stand to earn anywhere from $0.00222 to $0.0025 per stream.


http://amarudontv.com/2013/05/02/do...uch-do-the-artists-make/#sthash.WkbbkHOo.dpuf


And fukk what you say about SPOTIFY you full of shyt......unless that dude had a serious Beyoncé like partnership with Spotify he was making that bread you claim he was making off them streams..




DUDE I CO-OWNED A INTERNET RADIO STATION ...I KNEW IT WAS A SCAM.....

here I am CHARGING artists to get their songs played on my station, but yet they can't even benefit from the potential revenue that the broadcast station was bringing in

I couldn't be apart of that fukkery anymore cause I was a manager of starving artists as well

THAT'S WHY I TRIED TO FIGHT FOR MY ARTIST TO RECIEVE STREAMING REVENUE BUT MY HOSTING NETWORK DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT ...CAUSE THEY KNEW THE BULK OF THAT REVENUE WOULD COME FROM THE ADVERTISING INCOME THAT THEY WERE GETTING .....

IT'S A DIRTY GAME..........BUT UNFORTUNATLY U DON'T UNDERSTAND CAUSE YOU TOO BUSY THROWING YOURSELF IN THE BUSHES KNOWN AS SMART DUMB N1GGA TERRIRORY CAUSE YOU LACK COMPREHENSION SKILLS

:to: go back to school fool
 
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:heh: I feel sorry for dude, but I swear I saw a song of his on a Beats commercial with NBA players or something.....

but yeah. a lotta cats are still under the illusion that if your shyt is getting played a lot by some folks then you're gonna get paid.

But it's the same thing as if your shyt sold 500k copies all bootleg. You'll hear your shyt being played out of hella cars but he only person being paid is THE BOOTLEGGER.

if your shyt is on the internet and gets played 5 billion times and you don't monetize it yourself, you get nothing. aif the place you hosted your shyt on gets paid a dollar per every 1000 impressions of a certain ad plus revenue from ad sales, then they just got rich(er). Multiply that by the number of ads you see or hear in a 30 minute block of songs. And that's the greater majority of these sites in a nutshell. Youtube, Pandora and all.


The Coli doesn't like so-called "corny white rappers", but Cage said it best after his early shyt supposedly got bootlegged and downloaded more than a million+ times: "I'll never see a platinum plaque from MP3s."

Woe to these cats, cause I know it's been a perpetuated myth since the dawn of the record label.... But woe to these cats that think they'll make money solely because people are listening to their shyt.
 

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:why: hell is u talk bout

I told yall bout this shyt awhile back in thus thread

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-evils-of-vevo.264031/

NO ARTIST especially the Indy ones are getting 100% of the royalties....the Pandora..spodify and YouTube only do business with u iffy go thru a digital aggregator aka distributor like Tuncore..Ingrooves etc.

And when u speak of royalties...think ADVERTISING too.....a lot of these ads that RUN while the stream is playing had revenue that the Artist/songwriter is not seeing
The insight in that thread :leon:

I always thought it was funny how an artist would get millions of views for a certain video (legit views or not), but the album would go double aluminum foil, but they barely get paid off the video itself? shyt...
 
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