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That’s not what we’re saying. We’re saying he should get time off AFTER being robbed.

And, you’re talking about the same robber but ANYONE can attempt robbery. And truth be told, it is practice in some circles for some thieves to steal a mark’s information so they can double back and rob them again.

So maybe ALL that plays a factor in why he doesn’t need to be in there the day after, working with customers.

So, yes we understand you’re trying to be funny but, no, you’re wrong.
We aren't talking about the same thing and I'm being serious.

Im asking seriously what the point of having paid time off would do.

If he comes back two weeks later than 3 days back on the job, he gets robbed again, does he get another 2 weeks paid? Where does the cycle end? Most businesses operate at minimum staffing as it is, even before covid. If you know any person that's worked at a restaurant, store, you always hear "i had to stay because xxxx didn't show up" "xxxx had to leave early so i had to stay".

If someone comes into Burger king and waves a gun and forces the cashier, drive thru worker and the 2 cooks in the back into a backroom at gun point while they run the registers, you think the entire restaurant should just close for a few days? Or do you think "well that was the evening)night crew the other workers can still work breakfast and days, they can just close early......"

It financially doesn't make sense. You realize if the store closes or cuts hours, then they lose business. At that point you might as well say if an employee gets robbed that the business owners pays them out and hires someone new.
 

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We aren't talking about the same thing and I'm being serious.

Im asking seriously what the point of having paid time off would do.

If he comes back two weeks later than 3 days back on the job, he gets robbed again, does he get another 2 weeks paid? Where does the cycle end? Most businesses operate at minimum staffing as it is, even before covid. If you know any person that's worked at a restaurant, store, you always hear "i had to stay because xxxx didn't show up" "xxxx had to leave early so i had to stay".

If someone comes into Burger king and waves a gun and forces the cashier, drive thru worker and the 2 cooks in the back into a backroom at gun point while they run the registers, you think the entire restaurant should just close for a few days? Or do you think we'll that was the evening)night crew the other workers can still work breakfast and days, they can just close early......

It financially doesn't make sense. You realize if the store closes or cuts hours, then they lose business. At that point you might as well say if an employee gets robbed that the business owners pays them out and hires someone new.
You’re arguing a bunch of points that are assumed and in favor of the business over the individual that was robbed.

Mind you, we’re talking about people that were threatened physically with a gun.

It’s almost pointless to keep talking because you’re making excuses without taking the incident seriously and downplaying the fact he could have lost his life.

If he comes back and gets robbed again, I’m sure there’s a bigger issue than oh I’m giving employees vacation time.

Yes, if the whole staff of a restaurant gets held hostage, the restaurant SHOULD and WOULD close if they didn’t have enough people to staff it after the incident.

It doesn’t make sense financially but what sense does it make that your store gets robbed, say, every two weeks with the same employee in there? If they getting robbed, they’re losing business. If their employees are getting robbed while working, they’re losing employees too.

Thats what I mean by you making unrealistic scenarios in defense of one individual worker being robbed and having to work the next day.

It might not make money but that’s the cost of doing business.
 

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If he comes back and gets robbed again, I’m sure there’s a bigger issue than oh I’m giving employees vacation time.

Yes, if the whole staff of a restaurant gets held hostage, the restaurant SHOULD and WOULD close if they didn’t have enough people to staff it after the incident.

It doesn’t make sense financially but what sense does it make that your store gets robbed, say, every two weeks with the same employee in there? If they getting robbed, they’re losing business. If their employees are getting robbed while working, they’re losing employees too.

It might not make money but that’s the cost of doing business.

The cost of doing business means people gotta show up to work fam.

The same business ain't getting hit multiple times in a short span, even by the worst case scenario. Even if it does happen one time, closing up shop, meaning no sales, no customers ain't going to do anything, then everybody loses. Your customers are going to go somewhere else, the business is going to lose money, owner/boss is gonna cut hours and someone's getting fired if the business doesn't just close all together.

That could even be his damn shop, he could be the owner, you think he can just close up and lose money?

Scared money don't make money. That's not a rap lyric. That means in business you gotta take risks. The risk of operating a business that can and will get robbed is a risk.

The guy himself can use a break, he's just been through a traumatic situation, but what's the protocol? There has to be a standard. Everytime someone gets robbed they get time off and or paid? How much? How often?
 

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The cost of doing business means people gotta show up to work fam.

The same business ain't getting hit multiple times in a short span, even by the worst case scenario. Even if it does happen one time, closing up shop, meaning no sales, no customers ain't going to do anything, then everybody loses. Your customers are going to go somewhere else, the business is going to lose money, owner/boss is gonna cut hours and someone's getting fired if the business doesn't just close all together.

That could even be his damn shop, he could be the owner, you think he can just close up and lose money?

Scared money don't make money. That's not a rap lyric. That means in business you gotta take risks. The risk of operating a business that can and will get robbed is a risk.

The guy himself can use a break, he's just been through a traumatic situation, but what's the protocol? There has to be a standard. Everytime someone gets robbed they get time off and or paid? How much? How often?
You could have just said this, all that other shyt you said was pointless.

And, you basically admitted I was right from the start.

:comeon:

The standard is set by the boss but I can tell you wouldnt have mfers wanting to work for you if they’d have to report to work AFTER being robbed

:mjlol:
 

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You could have just said this, all that other shyt you said was pointless.

And, you basically admitted I was right from the start.

:comeon:

The standard is set by the boss but I can tell you wouldnt have mfers wanting to work for you if they’d have to report to work AFTER being robbed

:mjlol:

There is no right. It's a lose lose situation. Either he works scared with hurt feelings (and two weeks paid time off is not going to fix that) or the business closes and loses customers and money.
 

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There is no right. It's a lose lose situation. Either he works scared with hurt feelings (and two weeks paid time off is not going to fix that) or the business closes and loses customers and money.
I’m telling you, if you run your business the way you trying to, you ain’t gonna have employees, it’s just gonna be you and the cash register and the store, 2 of the 3 empty as fukk.

:pachaha:

Even cops get pysch reviewed after discharging their firearms to make sure they’re in the correct state of mind to interact with the public.

You telling me if you was gonna die one day, you get right back up and go to the same store and work?
 

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I’m telling you, if you run your business the way you trying to, you ain’t gonna have employees, it’s just gonna be you and the cash register and the store, 2 of the 3 empty as fukk.

:pachaha:

Even cops get pysch reviewed after discharging their firearms to make sure they’re in the correct state of mind to interact with the public.

You telling me if you was gonna die one day, you get right back up and go to the same store and work?

My pops has owned his own business for nearly 40 years. It's him and his employees. Before he had employees it was just him for like 15 years. If he didn't go to work, we didn't eat. It was as simple as that.

Now he has some other accountants that work in his office, but they have their clients and their hours, he doesn't make them report to work Monday-friday 8 to 5. If they don't want to work that's on them. If their clients complain or their work is messed up, he lets them go.

This notion of having my own shop and having the gumption to get up everyday and work isn't foreign or scary to me.

If homeboy wants to find a work from home job or a call center, i ain't mad at him. The reality is if he works a customer facing job, especially one that deals with money he has a chance of getting robbed. At some point he's gotta look at his account, his bills and make a decision. He made his decision. I accept it. It's what i would do.

And fukk the cops. When they get paid time off, you pay for that. It doesn't come from the union, or insurance or some grant. That's taxpayer dollars. Do i think we should pay taxes to afford to pay out every employee in America that gets robbed? Absolutely not. If the vape shop worker wants to get a psych evaluation and it says they aren't in the right state of mind to sell vapes then i guess he has to get a new job.....
 

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My pops has owned his own business for nearly 40 years. It's him and his employees. Before he had employees it was just him for like 15 years. If he didn't go to work, we didn't eat. It was as simple as that.

Now he has some other accountants that work in his office, but they have their clients and their hours, he doesn't make them report to work Monday-friday 8 to 5. If they don't want to work that's on them. If their clients complain or their work is messed up, he lets them go.

This notion of having my own shop and having the gumption to get up everyday and work isn't foreign or scary to me.

If homeboy wants to find a work from home job or a call center, i ain't mad at him. The reality is if he works a customer facing job, especially one that deals with money he has a chance of getting robbed. At some point he's gotta look at his account, his bills and make a decision. He made his decision. I accept it. It's what i would do.

And fukk the cops. When they get paid time off, you pay for that. It doesn't come from the union, or insurance or some grant. That's taxpayer dollars. Do i think we should pay taxes to afford to pay out every employee in America that gets robbed? Absolutely not. If the vape shop worker wants to get a psych evaluation and it says they aren't in the right state of mind to sell vapes then i guess he has to get a new job.....
I didn’t say paid time off for cops, I said they get a psychological review.

Please understand that your idea of making people work after being robbed isn’t even a standard people that literally put their lives on the line everyday aren’t forced to subject themselves to.

Everything else you said was just trash and irrelevant. It’s like you expect you saying all that to somehow change the idea that a person shouldn’t get time off after being in a life threatening position.
 

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I didn’t say paid time off for cops, I said they get a psychological review.

Please understand that your idea of making people work after being robbed isn’t even a standard people that literally put their lives on the line everyday aren’t forced to subject themselves to.

Everything else you said was just trash and irrelevant. It’s like you expect you saying all that to somehow change the idea that a person shouldn’t get time off after being in a life threatening position.

I addressed the psych review. I said if he gets one that says he isn't mentally fit to sell vapes then i guess he can't sell vapes .
:yeshrug: if you think you can run a financially stable business while closing up shop and paying people for not working, i support it, ill donate, ill come through and buy.

It's just don't believe it to be possible.
 

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I addressed the psych review. I said if he gets one that says he isn't mentally fit to sell vapes then i guess he can't sell vapes .
:yeshrug: if you think you can run a financially stable business while closing up shop and paying people for not working, i support it, ill donate, ill come through and buy.

It's just don't believe it to be possible.
You won’t run a financially stable business if mfers are robbing it every other week as you purposed in your various scenarios.

All your scenarios are far fetched and unrealistic and veer away from the original problem.

That’s why I said at the beginning you’re a pointless individual to talk to, because you’re coming up with fictional ideas to try to prove a point that someone has to work.

Yeah, the owner or the mfer who DIDNT JUST GET ROBBED.

No employees will wanna work because you won’t give them time off, no customers because they don’t wanna get robbed.

All because you think giving time off AFTER being robbed isn’t a good/viable idea, or more accurate because you don’t make money off of giving people time off.

Even on a business level, that’s some of the most stupidest shyt I’ve ever heard.
 

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are robbing it every other week as you purposed

All your scenarios .

you’re coming up with fictional ideas to try to prove a point that someone has to work.

I'm not proposing any scenarios.

In fact i specifically said it's unlikely that shop is going to get robbed again, so why not take his ass back to work.

I asked questions to try to understand why people think he should get time off, how long he should get off, if he should be paid, how much he should get paid and what standards should be set for employees.
 

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I'm talking about the same robber.
The notion that one shouldn't work at places that could get robbed is silly. It's unlikely the same guy is gonna come back the next day. And unlikely that it would get hit again the next day by a random robber.

The cost of doing business means people gotta show up to work fam.

The same business ain't getting hit multiple times in a short span, even by the worst case scenario. Even if it does happen one time, closing up shop, meaning no sales, no customers ain't going to do anything, then everybody loses. Your customers are going to go somewhere else, the business is going to lose money, owner/boss is gonna cut hours and someone's getting fired if the business doesn't just close all together.

That could even be his damn shop, he could be the owner, you think he can just close up and lose money?

Scared money don't make money. That means in business you gotta take risks. The risk of operating a business that can and will get robbed is a risk.

what's the protocol? There has to be a standard. Everytime someone gets robbed they get time off and or paid? How much? How often?
We aren't talking about the same thing and I'm being serious.

Im asking seriously what the point of having paid time off would do.

If he comes back two weeks later than 3 days back on the job, he gets robbed again, does he get another 2 weeks paid? Where does the cycle end?
Most businesses operate at minimum staffing as it is, even before covid. If you know any person that's worked at a restaurant, store, you always hear "i had to stay because xxxx didn't show up" "xxxx had to leave early so i had to stay".

If someone comes into Burger king and waves a gun and forces the cashier, drive thru worker and the 2 cooks in the back into a backroom at gun point while they run the registers, you think the entire restaurant should just close for a few days? Or do you think "well that was the evening)night crew the other workers can still work breakfast and days, they can just close early......"

It financially doesn't make sense. You realize if the store closes or cuts hours, then they lose business. At that point you might as well say if an employee gets robbed that the business owners pays them out and hires someone new.

@WaveCapsByOscorp™ can you see where im providing my consistent thoughts, and then where im asking questions?
there are no assumptions or made up scenarios. whats in blue are questions. whats bolded is my opinion/my thoughts.
 
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