America is ultimately going to run into the arms of fascism

[Hood Critic]

Though I like Indi's channel, I don't always 100% agree with his takes but I believe he's completely spot on in the below video.

He points out indicators in the late 1910s and early 1920s that led to the rise of the Nazi party and Hitler that very much mirror what we've seen in the last 5 years. Many will say that America is fine and far from collapse but are we? I mean we're ok today and might be in a couple years but long term, are we "fine"?

If we look at the discourse and state of government today compared to 2016, look how much has changed and transpired in half a decade. A pandemic, a political party who is intentionally breaking democracy for their own political gain, a media apparatus in disarray, and social fatigue all culminating into a neatly packaged detonator waiting to be triggered by some chaotic or violent event.

The Biden administration might be the last chance we get to divert from this path.

 

[Corny Batman]

Biden is adamant he can work with our fascists.

 

[DEAD7]

Nah…
I have yet to see term limits circumvented, and/or the forceful suppression of opposition.


This is just more fear mongering.
Majority of the country is fine… and still paying too much for flavored coffee.


Edit: unless fascism has been redefined/stretched to fit this new narrative…

 

[ORDER_66]

Biden is adamant he can work with our fascists.

Unity Remember???!?

 

[Althalucian]

Nah…
I have yet to see term limits circumvented, and/or the forceful suppression of opposition.


This is just more fear mongering.
Majority of the country is fine… and still paying too much for flavored coffee.


Edit: unless fascism has been redefined/stretched to fit this new narrative…

"Majority of the country is fine."
How did they vote again in the last election? What did these bozos do on 1/6?

You realize these people are going to come back with a vengeance, right?

 

[Ezra]

Nah…
I have yet to see term limits circumvented, and/or the forceful suppression of opposition.


This is just more fear mongering.
Majority of the country is fine… and still paying too much for flavored coffee.


Edit: unless fascism has been redefined/stretched to fit this new narrative…

These 14 points of facsims were developed in the early 90s and is widely accepted as an accurate barometer . Almost all of these are being checked off.

• The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”

MAGA - pretty self explanatory.

• The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
  • Fear mongering around technology and voting. Old way is the good way

• The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
  • Rise of anti intellectualism. Education is just a leftist cult. Rise of Proud Boys ect

• Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
  • If you dont think the deep state is out to get Trump, then youre just like them

• Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
  • Fear mongering about immigrants

• Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
  • Black and brown people and immigrants are taking your jobs. Biden is going to ruin the suburbs

• The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
  • More Deep State is out to get you, Great Replacement theory ect.

• The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
  • The liberals are soft soy boys but also will ruin our culture. Biden is a weak, brain dead leader who is secretly being controlled by AOC and the media

• Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
  • I dont have a good corollary for this one

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• Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
  • This seems pretty self explainaotry

• Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
  • This is what the whole conservative movement is about. See January 6 insurrection

• Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
  • This is pretty self explanatory.

• Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
  • Look at the Tucker Carlson's and the entire right wing media apparatus. We're the voice of reason, you deserve good jobs, but not anyone that doesnt look like you

• Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”
  • Trump speaks at 3rd grade level. There's no nuance. Everything is fake news

 

[DEAD7]

"Majority of the country is fine."
How did they vote again in the last election? What did these bozos do on 1/6?

You realize these people are going to come back with a vengeance, right?

I see, you’ve decided all of trumps support, and votes were from fascist and the thousand(s) who stormed the capital represent majority of the nation.

Ok, I can see how “we’re doomed” might ring true to you.


Far as I’m concerned those are fringe groups and in no way shape a form a representation of the vast majority of Americans.
Agree to disagree

 

[AnonymityX1000]

"Majority of the country is fine."
How did they vote again in the last election? What did these bozos do on 1/6?

You realize these people are going to come back with a vengeance, right?

How many people showed up at the capital?

 

[Ezra]

I see, you’ve decided all of trumps support, and votes were from fascist and the thousand(s) who stormed the capital represent majority of the nation.

Ok, I can see how “we’re doomed” might ring true to you.


Far as I’m concerned those are fringe groups and in no way shape a form a representation of the vast majority of Americans.
Agree to disagree

Do you think Trump and the whole Maga movement is fascistic or proto fascistic ?

 

[DEAD7]

These 14 points of facsims were developed in the early 90s and is widely accepted as an accurate barometer . Almost all of these are being checked off

Without forceable suppression and dictatorship, it falls short of fascism, imo. With much of what you listed being nothing more than Trump idiocy.
I don’t believe he will ever see the Oval Office again.
Nor do I believe his movement is going to takeover and usher in a fascist regime…
… and if I’m honest I feel bad for anyone who thinks it is.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Fear mongering about Trump is not healthy. He's not the president anymore. Can we please move on? When he runs for office again then you should worry about him. Let's see if he is even healthy enough to continue 4 years from now.

 

[DEAD7]

Do you think Trump and the whole Maga movement is fascistic or proto fascistic ?

Trump was a bigoted populist IMO and well short of the political fortitude and know how necessary for fascism.

His MAGA supporters are bigoted Americans.

 

[DEAD7]

There’s obviously lots of overlap between isms…What is with their burning desire to make it fascism though

 

[Ezra]

Trump attempted to pressure lawmakers into not verifying the results of a free and fair election. His whole movement was about authoritarian bigotry. The fact he didnt have the political fortitude to pull it off only makes him a failed fascist, but a fascist none the less.

I agree we cant obsess over him. There needs to be affirmative arguments for policies other than "We're not Trump, Trump is bad. It's also just as if not more dangerous to treat it as if it was just a crazy blip. Everyone that voted for Trump isnt a fascist. But they did vote for him and his fascist movement, feeling it was a better than what Biden offered.

Acting as if he just as gone away is dangerous. The entire republican party is centered around the cult of his personality. All their candidates will be judged on how much they're like him. If hes not running, he will be the king maker for the party.

Theyre using his big lie to justify making it harder for black folks to vote, restrict access to voting, judiciary is stocked w judges who will uphold these laws. If you want to brush it off as just bigotry and not big deal because it;s not fascism , then agree to disagree. It really just sounds like youre parsing words and playing semantics to reject the accurate fascism equivalences, for reasons I'll never understand.

 

[Hood Critic]

I see, you’ve decided all of trumps support, and votes were from fascist and the thousand(s) who stormed the capital represent majority of the nation.

Ok, I can see how “we’re doomed” might ring true to you.


Far as I’m concerned those are fringe groups and in no way shape a form a representation of the vast majority of Americans.
Agree to disagree

53% of Republicans believe Trump is the true president and was somehow cheated out of the Presidency, how exactly are you dismissing that as a some fringe group that will eventually disappear?

You have sitting congressional leaders who are still openly pushing the idea that the last election was stolen, how is that fringe?