American comics need to stop counting sales by Diamond shipping

[Formerly Black Trash]

Idk if Manga use a similar system but they're still releasing shyt during Coronavirus

Whats the point of digital sales if they dont really count towards a series popularity

I shouldnt have to get up and add comi s to a fukking pull list

Jesus

Fukking entitlement by some old ass motherfukkers

 

[Mr. Negative]

it's more stuff from back when I was saying the comic industry (and WWE) were following the exact same blueprint as record labels.

And they would end up the same way by doing the same shyt.

and despite things speeding it up... here we are.

 

[Jello Biafra]

it's more stuff from back when I was saying the comic industry (and WWE) were following the exact same blueprint as record labels.

And they would end up the same way by doing the same shyt.

and despite things speeding it up... here we are.

The Diamond thing with comics is all about trying to keep comic book stores alive. Not sure how long the comic companies are going to lose money before they just decide to go with the only avenue available to them for getting their books out and leave the majority of comic book stores to quickly fade and die.

 

[Json]

That won’t fix the problem of pricing though.

I always have always thought comics should have two tiers.
Print on crappy paper with cheaper prices for the general audience and have “collector” higher end pricing for the nerds who want to bag it.

 

[Primetime]

Yea, it is a head scratcher.

The whole point of digital release is two fold: 1. innovation and 2. business continuity strategy in the event of a crisis or catastrophe.

And so, yea: the fukk is the point of having digital sales if you can't/won't sell it when a crisis or catastrophe affects your ability to continue business via hard copy sales?

If it's about keeping the comic book store alive, then the issue goes back to innovation. There's no longer a need for a middle man (comic stores) with the overly complicated process of them estimating a finite order to purchase from the companies in the hopes they (the store owner) can sell the books to enough walk-in customers to make a profit.

All that leads to is a lot of practices in which they order an abundance of books featuring already established characters while newer/lesser known ones are all but bushed out the gate. They need to just go the full netflix/amazon route and send comic shops the way of blockbuster video.

 

[Smashius Clay]

That won’t fix the problem of pricing though.

I always have always thought comics should have two tiers.
Print on crappy paper with cheaper prices for the general audience and have “collector” higher end pricing for the nerds who want to bag it.

Put me in that first tier. I wanted to get into comics, but the cost is too prohibitive for someone who sees it as a potential hobby.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

What's funny is the same people who say they're die hard physical readers only, digital sucks, and if comics ever went fully digital, they'd stop buying new comics entirely also go if digital gets books early or has lower prices. What difference does it make if you're that dead set on physical anyway?

The industry still feels an obligation to appease the LCS, and anything perceived as a 'threat' is quickly stunted. Remember the DC Walmart giants? Comic ships were crazy butthurt about those, to the point where some were buying the whole stock and selling them at their own stores. So digital gets stunted with $3.99 books, little promotion, and delays while Diamond is shut down all because the LCS owners can't bear the thought that a customer may actually prefer digital and switch over full time.

And if they did switch, that's their choice as a consumer, and they should not be made to feel bad about it. They don't owe the comic book shops anything (unless they have a large pull list and don't cancel it).

Also, notice how manga and webtoons do not have these problems, and both of which are destroying the American comic book industry in terms of sales, popularity, and mainstream relevance.

 

[Primetime]

Put me in that first tier. I wanted to get into comics, but the cost is too prohibitive for someone who sees it as a potential hobby.

When i got into comics in the mid 90s (at the newsstand of a random supermarket) them shyts was like $1.50 to $1.75. So as a kid it was fairly easy to get moms to shell out 5-6 dollars for me to pick 3 books a week whenever she went grocery shopping. Now some of these books 4.99 for the same 22 pages

If a comic run is 4-6 issues, it's just not practical to pay 6 bucks for 1/4th to 1/6th of a story 1 month at a time. Multiplied by however many different comic runs you may have interest in but sure as hell don't got the budget to experiment on.

 

[Red Shield]

The Diamond thing with comics is all about trying to keep comic book stores alive. Not sure how long the comic companies are going to lose money before they just decide to go with the only avenue available to them for getting their books out and leave the majority of comic book stores to quickly fade and die.

yeah.. but I don't think the big 2 think they will be able to recoup if they kill comic book stores off also

 

[Zero]

I shouldnt have to get up and add comi s to a fukking pull list

Fukking entitlement

 

[Zero]

Put me in that first tier. I wanted to get into comics, but the cost is too prohibitive for someone who sees it as a potential hobby.

Thick paperback trades and omnibuses all day.

Matter of fact, if it wasn't for pirating comics online being braindead easy, I wouldn't own the comics I do now

 

[Json]

Thick paperback trades and omnibuses all day.

Matter of fact, if it wasn't for pirating comics online being braindead easy, I wouldn't own the comics I do now

I do want to support the teams with my money.

GN/trades are good if you want to read the whole story.

My thing is I want to read the singles to know if I want to read the whole thing. Everyone was raving about Hickman’s Xmen but I thought it seemed eh. I would have been pissed if I spent the money on a trade instead of some crappy 1.00 singles on crappy paper.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Your'e an idiot Zero

No other industry does this

Let's you buy digital but that purchase doesnt count

Suck my dikk you clown

 

[Zero]

Your'e an idiot Zero

No other industry does this

Let's you buy digital but that purchase doesnt count

Suck my dikk you clown

How dare you

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Damn it finally happened