American Scientists said Elon and Vivek are right
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MajesticLion
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Summary, OP
The solution isn't to ignore the education system, in favor of more H1B and student visa bandages. It's to fix it.
We have 340 million people here. Literally the third biggest population on earth. We dont need india or china. I don't believe for second that we can't mint our own talent here. And we will never do so as long as we keep importing foreigners as a crutch. The solution is investment in the populous. We can create more home grown DeGrasse Tysons if we simply fund them and improve working conditions for grad students.
And the problem isn't just money, it's quality of life of grad students. The reason Michio's students are all foreign is because of the horrible working conditions of PHD students. He and his fellow professors are part of the problem.
As somebody who was in an american PhD program, lemme just say that these programs are basically sweatshops and exploitation facilities similar to the medical residency programs. An environment where 80hr work weeks are the norm, and PHD applicants are indentured servants making less than minimum wage. Fix this and you will have more native PhD applicants.
I'm not even kidding , but a bunch of PHD candidates are legitimately suicidal because of the sht work conditions, especially in stem. I remember doing 86 hours of work in my lab in addition to mandatory teaching + 16 hrs TA work and only getting paid a 24k stipend for my labor. I Sat there wondering to myself why am I doing this, effectively being paid less than minimum wage?
It was not uncommon for candidates to leave campus to go home and get into car accidents because of sleep deprivation.
As somebody who was in an american PhD program, lemme just say that these programs are basically sweatshops and exploitation facilities similar to the medical residency programs. An environment where 80hr work weeks are the norm, and PHD applicants are indentured servants making less than minimum wage. Fix this and you will have more native PhD applicants.
I'm not even kidding , but a bunch of PHD candidates are legitimately suicidal because of the sht work conditions, especially in stem. I remember doing 86 hours of work in my lab in addition to mandatory teaching + 16 hrs TA work and only getting paid a 24k stipend for my labor. I Sat there wondering to myself why am I doing this, effectively being paid less than minimum wage?
It was not uncommon for candidates to leave campus to go home and get into car accidents because of sleep deprivation.
So do you see what I mean? With these trash work conditions why would an American want a PhD? So what we end up having is a similar condition to farm laborers at the lower end, where an American would gladly do the job if they were paid an appropriate wage and given respectable working conditions. But rather than doing this, our country imports desperate foreign nationals as indentured servants.
Other countries do not have such exploitative and draconian conditions for their future scholars. For example The EU has explicit working hour restrictions for PhD candidates and labor protections.
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its an 83 second video. if you dont have the patience, youre exactly the kind of unemployable person michio was talking about!Summary, OP
i could see if it was 20 minutes but asking for cliff notes for a video under 90 seconds? for real?
you want me to google you an AI summary? maybe i can just post for you from now on since you dont seem to want to use your brain
TheAnointedOne
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Is this video AI? I've never seen Michio Kaku talk like this.
The U.S relies on other countries such as China to educate their people , to then migrate to the U.S when they want real money.
Meanwhile , the U.S can instead use the money that should be for education , to go to the military instead.
Meanwhile , the U.S can instead use the money that should be for education , to go to the military instead.
IIVI
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Most of the A.I we have today by companies like OpenAI, Google, etc. were made by Chinese Engineers and Researchers. Whether they’re immigrants or born here. Look it up on LinkedIn. It goes way further than that though, going back over 100 years of innovation and technology contributed for this country. You got to be blind to not see all the Asians in schools, hospitals, companies and labs over the last few decades.
That’s only one group. There are plenty of people from Africa, Latin America, Middle East, etc. who’ve done work in this country. I don’t know how people aren’t aware of that.
Some guy named Luis Walter Alvarez won the Nobel Prize in Physics but they just call him an “American Physicist” when it’s clear that he’s Hispanic
Interesting fact: his son is the one who came up with the well-known asteroid theory that killed the dinosaurs.
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MajesticLion
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Japanese breh is right. America is brain draining lots of talented people from the around the world.
At the same time, Patel n'nem are trying to bring their caste system to American Tech
But anyone that's been through STEM in college KNOWS that the 2nd dude is right. I was just finna come in this mug and make the same point.
There's ZERO reason to weed people out. 1/2 people that were good at math and science in high school get weeded out.
Moreover, I've said this time and time again, there are not enough entry level jobs for stem students out there, and there never has been.
So of the 4 kids that went to college for STEM, only 2 graduate.
Of those 2, maybe 1 finds a job in their field study. (And a 50% draw rate is GREAT when compared to all the other majors)
My last point is that both China and India graduate 1M STEM students every year. At least China has something to show for it in terms of technology, science, and an industrial base.
Meanwhile in India *crickets*
American government does not invest meaningfully in education?
TheAnointedOne
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Oh 13 years ago. It was a different time back then. You can't talk like that now in 2025. People are too sensitive. (I agree with him btw)
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