Another Wu thread. What year do y’all think The RZA should’ve released The Cure?

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That was a very dark time being a wu fan and it was hard to believe RZA rhymed over that beat

He was clearly pandering and trying to fit into the climate at the time

shyt was ass

Yup

He probably did just pull from lyrics he had written from The Cure a few years before and then that other shyt like Cherry Range and We Pop are straight out of 2003 when he made it
I feel I remember reading this

The thing that sucks is he sounded tired and lacked energy on these songs in 2003


Plus that album had a hodge podge of other shyt on it too

BOP is rzas best album. Cherry range is prolly my fav sonh on there

Rza got paid 7 mill for bobby digi 1

If i was him id do my pure high end sample stuff with wu and take them easy checks for solos where he can experiment.

The cure is essentially all rzas best joints on all his projects from 93-07

Tears
Sunshower
Domestic violenc
The birth
See the joy
Day to god is 1000
Gravediggaz 2
Cant gotosleep
Jah world
Sunlight
Etc

Thats my version anuwau


Just so you know tho

Cilvaringz got some cure rza cominh on his next tape. He bought up some 96 - ironman reels and has a rza song.
 
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BOP is rzas best album. Cherry range is prolly my fav sonh on there

Rza got paid 7 mill for bobby digi 1

If i was him id do my pure high end sample stuff with wu and take them easy checks for solos where he can experiment.

The cure is essentially all rzas best joints on all his projects from 93-07

Tears
Sunshower
Domestic violenc
The birth
See the joy
Day to god is 1000
Gravediggaz 2
Cant gotosleep
Jah world
Sunlight
Etc

Thats my version anuwau


Just so you know tho

Cilvaringz got some cure rza cominh on his next tape. He bought up some 96 - ironman reels and has a rza song.

Nah, he sounds tired and lethargic on Birth of a Prince

Just cause that album got some song titles that seemingly fit to a Cure album, I’m not giving that a pass lmao

The beats on Birth of a Prince were weak too

1997 or top of 1998 he should’ve dropped The Cure album

Up to 2007?! RZA had been washed by then. His last hurrah was 2000

Cilvaringz?! No thank you lol
 

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Nah, he sounds tired and lethargic on Birth of a Prince

Just cause that album got some song titles that seemingly fit to a Cure album, I’m not giving that a pass lmao

The beats on Birth of a Prince were weak too

1997 or top of 1998 he should’ve dropped The Cure album

Up to 2007?! RZA had been washed by then. His last hurrah was 2000

Cilvaringz?! No thank you lol

Id call it less lethagic and more… drugs. Chi kung is rza doped out.

BOP is def pretty much universally hailed by wu fans as his best solo.

But sunlight is a rza classic in 2007 you wilding

The idea that people just fall off at a speciric time and never make good music again to me is bullshyt but ok. Theres plenty of rza gems after this album. Head rush. Advanced pawns. Sunlight.

I enjoy your coli late night discovery fests 20 years after the fact nonetheless. Goes well with my ultra stannings. The truth is in the middle.

Bop still best wu album of 02/03 run tho

And “rza 96 ironman reel” implies the rza ya talkin about. Its a cure song. Never released. Being on a ringz wu release or not matters not to me other than we gettin cure rza
 
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Id call it less lethagic and more… drugs. Chi kung is rza doped out.

BOP is def pretty much universally hailed by wu fans as his best solo.

But sunlight is a rza classic in 2007 you wilding

The idea that people just fall off at a speciric time and never make good music again to me is bullshyt but ok. Theres plenty of rza gems after this album. Head rush. Advanced pawns. Sunlight.

I enjoy your coli late night discovery fests 20 years after the fact nonetheless.

And “rza 96 ironman reel” implies the rza ya talkin about. Its a cure song. Never released. Being on a ring wu release or not matters not to me other than we gettin cure rza

Whatever you want to call it, he sounded sleepy and and like he had a stopped up nose lol

RZA’s last hurrah was 2000. Most of older heads would say late 90’s but the beats he produced on Supreme were elite

Nothing is late

I’m revisiting shyt I haven’t listened to in decades. And outside of a few songs here and there i had long stopped checking for every Wu release cause them nikkas fell off a long time ago

Sometimes it fun to go back and listen to music when it’s been a long time and just to see if you view it ain’t differently

I’m an old head, not some young nikka lmao
 

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Whatever you want to call it, he sounded sleepy and and like he had a stopped up nose lol

RZA’s last hurrah was 2000. Most of older heads would say late 90’s but the beats he produced on Supreme were elite

Nothing is late

I’m revisiting shyt I haven’t listened to in decades. And outside of a few songs here and there i had long stopped checking for every Wu release cause them nikkas fell off a long time ago

Sometimes it fun to go back and listen to music when it’s been a long time and just to see if you view it ain’t differently

I’m an old head, not some young nikka lmao
Eh. You have old head talking points. Aka only peak 5 mic wu is worth listening to.

Wu fell off post 2000 isnt exactly unique idea.

Usually spouted by non wu heads tho

Coli fall off meaning anything below prime peak. If you cany find value in it , maybe your not a wu fan and just a fan of the period they were prime.

Because rza did NOT end in 2000 and theres a reason why wu is on worldwide tours and still most famous rap group while their peers sitting at home despite wu “falling off to wack 25 years ago”.

Bop at worse is a 3.5 mic album. In no way is it wack sir. Most of the albums ive seen you call wack are solid 3/3.5mic albums. Most rappers never drop one album above that. If BOPis wack so is 99% of the game and half of everyones catalog off rip.

Thats crazy talk. Wack songs on it sure. But theres GEMS on every wu album. Including this one. If 3.5 is wsck, theres only one hundred worthwhile projects in whole genre.
 
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Eh. You have old head talking points. Aka only peak 5 mic wu is worth listening to.

Wu fell off post 2000 isnt exactly unique idea.

Usually spouted by non wu heads tho

Coli fall off meaning anything below prime peak. If you cany find value in it , maybe your not a wu fan and just a fan of the period they were prime.

Because rza did NOT end in 2000 and theres a reason why wu is on worldwide tours and still most famous rap group while their peers sitting at home despite wu “falling off to wack 25 years ago”.

Bop at worse is a 3.5 mic album. In no way is it wack sir. Most of the albums ive seen you call wack are solid 3/3.5mic albums. Most rappers never drop one album above that. If BOPis wack so is 99% of the game and half of everyones catalog off rip.

Thats crazy talk. Wack songs on it sure. But theres GEMS on every wu album. Including this one.

We can agree to disagree :mjgrin:
 

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We can agree to disagree :mjgrin:
I mean id like to understand how someone who makes a wu thread every singoe night thinks the entire decade was worthless for the goat hip hop artist who ever lived.

I mean i love the 90 s shytbas much as anyone. But not so much everything besides it is worthless and has zero value.

Its a very “cilvaringz” type or take. Yall would get along lol. He hates everything after 97 but thats the only hip hop he ever listened to and from europe.


Btw big fan of the wu and forgotten girl threads
 
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I mean id like to understand how someone who makes a wu thread every singoe night thinks the entire decade was worthless for the goat hip hop artist who ever lived.

I mean i love the 90 s shytbas much as anyone. But not so much everything besides it is worthless and has zero value.

Its a very “cilvaringz” type or take. Yall would get along lol. He hates everything after 97 but thats the only hip hop he ever listened to and from europe.

Long story short

I’d been watching their final tour on YouTube the other night and then listening back to old songs and albums

Revisiting when their music was great in the 90’s and the era I grew up in

No lmao

I know you a Wu Stan but bruh, the wu fell off a long time ago.
 

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Long story short

I’d been watching their final tour on YouTube the other night and then listening back to old songs and albums

Revisiting when their music was great in the 90’s and the era I grew up in

No lmao

I know you a Wu Stan but bruh, the wu fell off a long time ago.
Dont dismiss me bruh explain. You made the thread.

you been making wu threadslonger than final chamber tour, i patronize them all. Im the wu stan yet you like 60-1 in threads about them. Every night too.

Immobilarity and the sexond run of albims was MEDIOCRE yet fishscale gm and cuban 2 arent. So howd wu fall off to WACK post 2000 after droppinh 3 gems that year alone. Bpw was wack? Yall been warned iron flag babies are wack? Run is wack? New wu wack? Gun will go, campfire wack?


I aint the one dismissing 100+ albums as waxk and worthless, you are.

Im not a self deprecating casual wu stan calling others stans while posting multiple threads everynight judging music with a singular LEGENDARY / WACK guillotine


Even saying rza was sleepy on bop dont even make sense. Half the album, including the slower songs, he builds his verses into full screams.



You a casual wu fan making wu stan threads nightly

Its confusing thats all

I mean heads were in immobilarity thread calling casablanca and sneakers wack saying rae fell off. Na i dont got time for shyt like that .. at all. Nope.

Not when raes catalog from 98/99 has 40+ extra songs from osts mixtapes and a dozen featured singles with video for other artists as their leadoff. So immobilarity could be weak… But raekwon was never WACK. Which is why he is featured with every artist of the past 20 years. If wu was wack , that wouodnt have happened.

Somehow while making exclusively wack music, wu leapfrogged all the other classic dropping groups… amazing
 
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