Any Hebrew Isrealite Brehs On Here? I Have A Question....

[MaxPain]

I’ve asked this question to MULTIPLE Hebrew isrealite brehs and NONE so far have answered this question thoroughly...

AT most, one said there’s higher up and more knowledgeable Hebrew Isrealites who can answer this question....

The rest usually went from.........to....... to “you beleive the white man’s propoganda!”

At first their shocked and at a loss for words when I ask this question. It usualy results in deflection and name calling. But no real answer.


So let’s start with this chart on the tribes...

I asked....so whites are edomites correct? They said yes. I said ok. According to this chart..... a cuban for example like this is considered related to African Americans but Africans in no way shape or form are. Their philosophy is that continental Africans are not in any way shape or form related to AA’s.

Make this make sense.

Im supposed to beleive a white looking, Canelo mexican is more closely related to an AA but a continental African isnt?

I picked the whole chart apart......but I used those two examples the most bc they resonate the most....

Not to mention they put Argentina up there a 96% white country & commited mass genocide on their own African population. They are damn near extinct if not flat out extinct. A racist country even by Latin standards to the point they don’t even consider themselves latinos but as European . Chile is a super white latin country too. But they are the tribe of Naphtali, my brother......

I want a stomp down answer.

 

[mattw1313]

I mean I watch their vids a decent amount, listen to them on the street a lot, bc they say a lot of real shyt, and this is a 101 level answer, so I'm surprised this stumped anyone you asked.

the chart you put up even answers the question itself

the placement on the chart is reference to descendants of Black slaves and Indian tribes from those countries, as distinguished from colonizing Spaniards or more recent European immigrants (which Argentina, for example, has a lot of)

 

[MaxPain]

I mean I watch their vids a decent amount, listen to them on the street a lot, bc they say a lot of real shyt, and this is a 101 level answer, so I'm surprised this stumped anyone you asked.

the chart you put up even answers the question itself

the placement on the chart is reference to descendants of Black slaves and Indian tribes from those countries, as distinguished from colonizing Spaniards or more recent European immigrants (which Argentina, for example, has a lot of)

Argentina is nearly all white so what black or indian tribes

and it’s on the list so that doesnt answer the question

 

[MaxPain]

@HarlemHottie @LaBellaNicole0416.NYC Help me out here

 

[mattw1313]

Argentina is nearly all white so what black or indian tribes and it’s on the list so that doesnt answer the question

Indigenous peoples in Argentina - Wikipedia

about a million first generation descendants. and chile has at least 2 mil. they out there

Afro-Argentines - Wikipedia

and 150,000 black argentines

 

[semicko82]

When you ask a logical question in a religious thread

 

[MaxPain]

Indigenous peoples in Argentina - Wikipedia

about a million first generation descendants. and chile has at least 2 mil. they out there

Afro-Argentines - Wikipedia

and 150,000 black argentines

While u made a good point the chart doesnt specify that and neither have any hebrew isrealites. The tribe just says “cubans”. So that includes white cubans. Doesnt say black or Amerindian cubans (which are extinct).

U actually are making a point for them though which is funny cuz u aint even onethat makes them look even worse.

my questions for that though is,

1. How come what you said isnt specified on the chart & why have I seen white latinos preaching with them if that’s the case

2. Black people from the carribean and latin america from different parts of Africa than AA’s so there are differences. But according to them this special group of super saiyan negros from Israel that got shipped got spread out between North, South America & the carribean. So technically I’m African American

3. In what world would an AA find more common ground with an Aztec Indian over a continental African

 

[mattw1313]

While u made a good point the chart doesnt specify that and neither have any hebrew isrealites. The tribe just says “cubans”. So that includes white cubans. Doesnt say black or Amerindian cubans (which are extinct).

U actually are making a point for them though which is funny cuz u aint even onethat makes them look even worse.

my questions for that though is,

1. How come what you said isnt specified on the chart & why have I seen white latinos preaching with them if that’s the case

2. Black people from the carribean and latin america from different parts of Africa than AA’s so there are differences. But according to them this special group of super saiyan negros from Israel that got shipped got spread out between North, South America & the carribean. So technically I’m African American

3. In what world would an AA find more common ground with an Aztec Indian over a continental African

I understand the chart doesn't specify but typically that's an instant answer if you ask, that's why I'm bewildered that it stumped anyone you asked.

Amerindian Cubans are not extinct. The idea that Indian tribes of Cuba and the other Islands were wiped out, as opposed to being blended in, has always been ridiculous, but science is catching up to common sense: The Taíno were written off as extinct. Until now.
Ancient Islanders Visited by Columbus Not 'Extinct,' Study Finds

I *think* they don't tend to question the lighter Latinos that rock with them, because they may only be able to trace their ancestry but so far back, and it's more than plausible that whiter Latinos still trace back to an Indian forefather (the Israelite belief is that you are your fathers lineage, meaning what you look like isn't what matters, but who you trace back to).

I'm not well versed who came from which parts of Africa, so I'm gonna have to skip 2

3. could be a long complex discussion, but it all comes down to how you look at the world I guess

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

I’ve asked this question to MULTIPLE Hebrew isrealite brehs and NONE so far have answered this question thoroughly...

AT most, one said there’s higher up and more knowledgeable Hebrew Isrealites who can answer this question....

The rest usually went from.........to....... to “you beleive the white man’s propoganda!”

At first their shocked and at a loss for words when I ask this question. It usualy results in deflection and name calling. But no real answer.


So let’s start with this chart on the tribes...

I asked....so whites are edomites correct? They said yes. I said ok. According to this chart..... a cuban for example like this is considered related to African Americans but Africans in no way shape or form are. Their philosophy is that continental Africans are not in any way shape or form related to AA’s.

Make this make sense.

Im supposed to beleive a white looking, Canelo mexican is more closely related to an AA but a continental African isnt?

I picked the whole chart apart......but I used those two examples the most bc they resonate the most....

Not to mention they put Argentina up there a 96% white country & commited mass genocide on their own African population. They are damn near extinct if not flat out extinct. A racist country even by Latin standards to the point they don’t even consider themselves on latinos but as European . Chilese is a super white latin country too. But they are the tribe of Naphtali, my brother......

I want a stomp down answer.

So you pretty much asking how hispanics/latinos are closer related to israelites than africans?
(Im an ex israelite)

 

[MaxPain]

So you pretty much asking how hispanics/latinos are closer related to israelites than africans?
(Im an ex israelite)

Yea

@mattw1313 gave me somewhat of an answer but there are still holes in this

Most times I just get cussed out when I argue against this lol

 

[MaxPain]

I understand the chart doesn't specify but typically that's an instant answer if you ask, that's why I'm bewildered that it stumped anyone you asked.

Amerindian Cubans are not extinct. The idea that Indian tribes of Cuba and the other Islands were wiped out, as opposed to being blended in, has always been ridiculous, but science is catching up to common sense: The Taíno were written off as extinct. Until now.
Ancient Islanders Visited by Columbus Not 'Extinct,' Study Finds

I *think* they don't tend to question the lighter Latinos that rock with them, because they may only be able to trace their ancestry but so far back, and it's more than plausible that whiter Latinos still trace back to an Indian forefather (the Israelite belief is that you are your fathers lineage, meaning what you look like isn't what matters, but who you trace back to).

I'm not well versed who came from which parts of Africa, so I'm gonna have to skip 2

3. could be a long complex discussion, but it all comes down to how you look at the world I guess

You made a good point breh but I’ma take this out the article you posted lol

'While I don't deny my European or African ancestry,I deeply feel it's long due that my family relearns, remembers, and reclaims our birthrights as Indigenous Boricuas [Puerto Ricans].

So in other words she’s mixed like most latinos and all those folks in that article are mixed too lol.There are damn near no pure Tainos around. But thats for another discussion

And alot of latinos especially the whiter/lightskin ones (criollos) are white thru the paternal line. Remember, they killed the men and took the women. So by that logic alotta those latinos I see preaching with them are white. Those white latinos have white paternal lines and possibly some non white maternal line but came out with a white phenotype.So they are white but there are white latinos with white paternal and maternal lines.

Dominican Republic for one, has no pure Indians left but we have close to pure African people. But the majority of us are mixed ESPECIALLY thru the paternal line. So most of us are white then

And honestly if we go by paternal lines, there are more than a few cacs like say for instance Italy or Spain where the African Moors invaded the gene pool. So alot of those “edomites” have a black man in their paternal line as a forefather. Are they black?

I know I didnt specify in the OP but I have drawn the argument out bc I have heard the paternal line arguement not all of them just hit the wall with the question lol but most of them have you make better points so far than them and thats saying alot

 

[Dreadknox77]

It’s really by the spirit if you can comprehend...



in this video you can see Omarion clearly has a different spirit than the people in the beginning of the video

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Yea

@mattw1313 gave me somewhat of an answer but there are still holes in this

Most times I just get cussed out when I argue against this lol

Its really them dudes (Israelites) just tryna disassociate themselves from Africa. (Even though Israel is northeast Africa).

The whole 12 tribes chart is flawed and historically/scientifically false

 

[Dro_Pesci]

Some old testament hebrews do believe they are african people. Its usually the new testament hebrews with white lookin cubans and ricans in their camps

 

[MaxPain]

Its really them dudes (Israelites) just tryna disassociate themselves from Africa. (Even though Israel is northeast Africa).

The whole 12 tribes chart is flawed and historically/scientifically false

That’s what I suspected.