Dude turned down astronomical numbers and a chance to be undisputed. He's ducking. No other way around it. Some people are trying to defend him by saying it is a 3 fight deal and ties him up, but pleae also remember that he refused to even listen to or entertain offers from Joshua after the Fury fight as well. This man said Joshua was begging for the fight. Joshua was then forced to fight Big Baby Miller.
Anybody defending Wilder after turning down 100 million dollars has no credibility.
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desjardins
Veteran
Yea the DAZN deal included a Joshua fight AND a rematch.
The ESPN deal included a Fury rematch.
His PBC deal is going to have to be $200million to make sense why he refused those deals, and even then he ducked for the money but at least it's understandable.
Right now he looking like a straight fraud
The ESPN deal included a Fury rematch.
His PBC deal is going to have to be $200million to make sense why he refused those deals, and even then he ducked for the money but at least it's understandable.
Right now he looking like a straight fraud
For reference from patscorpio
DAZN offered Wilder two versions of a deal from which he could pick, two sources with knowledge of the offers told ESPN.
One deal, the sources said, was for three fights worth $100 million. The first fight would have been a $20 million payday to fight Breazeale this spring. The second fight would have been for $40 million to fight Joshua in the fall for the undisputed title with the third fight being an immediate rematch with Joshua for another $40 million -- even if Wilder, in the worst-case scenario, had gotten knocked out, even in the first round, of the first fight by Joshua (22-0, 21 KOs), 29, of England.
The second version of the offer, one of the sources said, would have paid Wilder $20 million to fight Breazeale, $40 million for the Joshua fight, a $20 million fight against another opponent to be determined followed by another $40 million for a rematch with Joshua in the fourth fight.
In addition, one of the sources said the first fight with Joshua was guaranteed to be in the United States with DAZN willing to have the second fight in Joshua's native United Kingdom, even though the time zone would put a live stream of the fight on in the late afternoon instead of closer to the preferred time of 11:30 p.m. ET, which is when most major fights go off for U.S. broadcasts.
After Fury signed a co-promotional deal with Top Rank last month to bring his fights to ESPN platforms, the much-anticipated rematch with Wilder, which was close to being finalized, fell apart because Wilder also rejected an offer from Top Rank for $12.5 million for a summer fight against an opponent to be determined followed by $20 million to fight Fury again on ESPN PPV in the fall
DAZN offered Wilder two versions of a deal from which he could pick, two sources with knowledge of the offers told ESPN.
One deal, the sources said, was for three fights worth $100 million. The first fight would have been a $20 million payday to fight Breazeale this spring. The second fight would have been for $40 million to fight Joshua in the fall for the undisputed title with the third fight being an immediate rematch with Joshua for another $40 million -- even if Wilder, in the worst-case scenario, had gotten knocked out, even in the first round, of the first fight by Joshua (22-0, 21 KOs), 29, of England.
The second version of the offer, one of the sources said, would have paid Wilder $20 million to fight Breazeale, $40 million for the Joshua fight, a $20 million fight against another opponent to be determined followed by another $40 million for a rematch with Joshua in the fourth fight.
In addition, one of the sources said the first fight with Joshua was guaranteed to be in the United States with DAZN willing to have the second fight in Joshua's native United Kingdom, even though the time zone would put a live stream of the fight on in the late afternoon instead of closer to the preferred time of 11:30 p.m. ET, which is when most major fights go off for U.S. broadcasts.
After Fury signed a co-promotional deal with Top Rank last month to bring his fights to ESPN platforms, the much-anticipated rematch with Wilder, which was close to being finalized, fell apart because Wilder also rejected an offer from Top Rank for $12.5 million for a summer fight against an opponent to be determined followed by $20 million to fight Fury again on ESPN PPV in the fall
Don't think Wilder is scared he just wants control of his own career. Imagine if Haymon told Joshua if you want your first title shot against Charles Martin you have to sign with the PBC? Same with Fury.
This is exactly what DAZN and ESPN are doing. They should be able to work it out like Showtime and HBO did. No one is saying Crawford should sign with the PBC to get big fights. Alverez had to sign with ESPN for the Kovalev fight.
Everyone else is doing what's best for them. Wilder is betting on himself.
This fight can do 2 million buys with both PPV in the US and UK. There is also no incentive if he wins. What if he knocked Joshua out brutally? He would still probably make less than him in a rematch. Joshua didn't take the $50 million and ended up with a better deal, last year people were telling Wilder he was a fool for not taking a $15 million flat fee, and now they had to come back with a bigger offer. Does anyone know how much Joshua is making? They didn't seem like they wanted to disclose that to Wilders team.
The PBC should have signed Whyte so they would have a future ppv opponent. Now Joshua will probably face Klitchko again if they sign him.
Why does he have to sign elsewhere to make these fights? It can be done without that.
Wilder has shown that it is not just about the money, which is why he faced Ortiz, and gave Fury a 50/50 split.
This is exactly what DAZN and ESPN are doing. They should be able to work it out like Showtime and HBO did. No one is saying Crawford should sign with the PBC to get big fights. Alverez had to sign with ESPN for the Kovalev fight.
Everyone else is doing what's best for them. Wilder is betting on himself.
This fight can do 2 million buys with both PPV in the US and UK. There is also no incentive if he wins. What if he knocked Joshua out brutally? He would still probably make less than him in a rematch. Joshua didn't take the $50 million and ended up with a better deal, last year people were telling Wilder he was a fool for not taking a $15 million flat fee, and now they had to come back with a bigger offer. Does anyone know how much Joshua is making? They didn't seem like they wanted to disclose that to Wilders team.
The PBC should have signed Whyte so they would have a future ppv opponent. Now Joshua will probably face Klitchko again if they sign him.
Why does he have to sign elsewhere to make these fights? It can be done without that.
Wilder has shown that it is not just about the money, which is why he faced Ortiz, and gave Fury a 50/50 split.
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actually ppl have been saying this
ORDER_66
I dont care anymore 2026
no he is saying that the only reason to turn down DAZN and ESPN deals moneywise is that Showtime better be offering him a more financially lucrative dealis this true???I'd take a $200 million instead of the $100....
ORDER_66
I dont care anymore 2026
we dont know...all wilder said about the whole thing is "loyalty"..no numbers have been dropped yetYeah but is THAT true???is he getting a more lucrative deal...?
malbaker86
Gators
I said it in the random thoughts thread but i can see where they are coming from. GGG would of only got $15 millthe first canelo fight had he taken the flat fee yet walked away with over $20 mill from what i read. If Wilder "only" getting $40 mill and AJ, who they never mentioned how much HE'D be making, would (just throwing a number out there), close to or over $100 mill, of course it's cause for pause if i'm Wilder.
As long as both are undefeated, the big money is there considering last year it was only $15 mill the most they were talking about offering Wilder and now it's up to $40 for atleast one fight.
As long as both are undefeated, the big money is there considering last year it was only $15 mill the most they were talking about offering Wilder and now it's up to $40 for atleast one fight.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
It amazes me how stupid and illogical some of you dudes are.. Why would wilder sign a flat fee to face AJ where if he wins and becomes undisputed he has to take the same flat rate
I don’t exactly see his choice once the Breazeale fight flops viewer wise.
The few people who still have cable ain’t paying for no damn showtime
What’s the game plan for Wilder getting paid if the Fury or Aj fights aren’t possible
Take It In Blood
Banned
an extra 100 million makes a hell of a difference
if the other companies wanted him they should have tried to one up the offer
if the other companies wanted him they should have tried to one up the offer