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Does anybody have info on how was slavery in the hispanola. Of course slavery was bad everywhere? But did the Hispanola have it the worst with the worst conditions?
Anybody ever studied Slavery in the Hispanola?
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Henri Christophe
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This is a good book on the subject. In the book they talk about how Columbus came and slaughtered the natives of Hispanola and wiped out their population, then started importing slaves from West Africa.
Surprisingly enough all of this stems from a Catholic decree called Dum Diversas of 1452. This was the decree that started the Trans Atlantic slave trade.
Dum Diversas - Wikipedia
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Look bro. It’s not like that.
I feel like this discussion matters and puts a lot into perspective.
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Thank you I’ll read this tomorrow.This is a good book on the subject. In the book they talk about how Columbus came and slaughtered the natives of Hispanola and wiped out their population, then started importing slaves from West Africa.
Surprisingly enough all of this stems from a Catholic decree called Dum Diversas of 1452. This was the decree that started the Trans Atlantic slave trade.
Dum Diversas - Wikipedia
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When people say Dominicans or black latins are racists against blacks I don’t think they understand
Many black people from Spanish speaking Caribbean, Central American and South American nations have had harsh and cruel conditioning forced upon them in every imaginable way and for generations that being black is bad, and that being of African descent is bad, in every conceivable way.
This indoctrination was not limited to the many cruelties of slavery, but extended into constant cultural appropriation, ridicule, harassment, bullying, etc.
Many Spanish speaking dark skinned Caribbean, Central and South American blacks were virtually outcasts in their own countries of birth, subject to a broad range of humiliating experiences, stereotypes, etc., all too often culminating in physical attack, assault, violation, and even murder.
To my knowledge, no Spanish speaking nation in the Western Hemisphere ever had a civil rights black upliftment/power movement equivalent to the US civil rights movement of the 1960s.
Thus, to this day, many of these issues remain deeply ingrained in the collective psyche of these societies and thus completely unresolved.
In no way is being racist good or should be accepted. But you have to understand what these people have been through that could of made a whole nation and a whole culture and background this way and this doesn’t get talked about at all.
Many black people from Spanish speaking Caribbean, Central American and South American nations have had harsh and cruel conditioning forced upon them in every imaginable way and for generations that being black is bad, and that being of African descent is bad, in every conceivable way.
This indoctrination was not limited to the many cruelties of slavery, but extended into constant cultural appropriation, ridicule, harassment, bullying, etc.
Many Spanish speaking dark skinned Caribbean, Central and South American blacks were virtually outcasts in their own countries of birth, subject to a broad range of humiliating experiences, stereotypes, etc., all too often culminating in physical attack, assault, violation, and even murder.
To my knowledge, no Spanish speaking nation in the Western Hemisphere ever had a civil rights black upliftment/power movement equivalent to the US civil rights movement of the 1960s.
Thus, to this day, many of these issues remain deeply ingrained in the collective psyche of these societies and thus completely unresolved.
In no way is being racist good or should be accepted. But you have to understand what these people have been through that could of made a whole nation and a whole culture and background this way and this doesn’t get talked about at all.
Black people here went through the same thing and it’s not like the civil rights era ushered in a utopia, yet we’ve never run from who we are. All you typed was a weak excuse for weakness.
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Slavery in the Hispanola vs Slavery in the US was not the same. The aftermath wasn’t either.
Columbus was brutal if the natives didn't mine enough gold he'd chop their ears/noses off. Many of the natives committed suicide when they couldn't find enough tribute.
One of his main missions was to christen the natives but he avoided this with the intention of enslaving them.
One of his main missions was to christen the natives but he avoided this with the intention of enslaving them.
Lord_nikon
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I read sugarcane Slavery system was extremely fukked up,,,,,, gotta do more reading tho
Henri Christophe
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So how come one side of the island embraced their African roots (Haiti) and the other side denied it (DR)
The French were more brutal than the Spanish.
In general everywhere the Spaniards colonized, they would reproduce with the women both Indigenous and African (imported). They also claimed them and gave the child their last name. That's my theory on why DR is iffy on claiming African roots.
The French and British would bring their white families to the place they where colonizing.
A lot of what you write is true and fair.
I would just add that one thing Americans simply don't understand is that the American experience with racism is almost purely about color.
Black Americans and White Americans. And that's the identity.
But for many other countries in the Caribbean and South America, it's not that way.
Black people in DR or Haiti or Brazil or Colombia don't primarily identify as black. They identify as their nationality. And that's what Americans will never understand. So you get these Americans speaking about a dynamic under an American context that simply does not apply.
livindajetlife
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You saw thru the b.s immediately
