Anyone here bought a retired police Crown Victoria ?

[HALLOWEEN]

Funnest vehicle I ever drove. People will move out of your way. They'll hang up their phone calls, put on theirseat belts, slow down if they're speeding (gets annoying though).

Whenever I was bored I'd go to local parks and drive slow with the fog lights on and I'll empty out the parking lots lmfao.

I once joined a high speed pursuit as the last "cop car" on the freeway ... I felt stupid as hell when they exited the freeway and I had to stay on the freeway and drive the speed limit lol

I miss her.. her name was the black stallion...

 

[Mac Casper]

Funnest vehicle I ever drove. People will move out of your way. They'll hang up their phone calls, put on theirseat belts, slow down if they're speeding (gets annoying though).

Whenever I was bored I'd go to local parks and drive slow with the fog lights on and I'll empty out the parking lots lmfao.

I once joined a high speed pursuit as the last "cop car" on the freeway ... I felt stupid as hell when they exited the freeway and I had to stay on the freeway and drive the speed limit lol

I miss her.. her name was the black stallion...

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

An old friend of mine had one when I lived in cali. He said he never had to worry about people trying to steal his car

Ex cop cars with high miles are iffy though. You don't know what kind of stress it's been through. Maintenance isn't going to account for everything all the time. And investing triple what you paid for a car is It's a depreciating asset so why put money into something that won't increase in value unless its a new engine/transmission (and even then you still won't recoup your investment depending on how long you have it.

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

Pics first

Find a wrecked, loaded MGM and swap the interior.

Did Ford ever fix the "plastic" intake manifold on the 4.6?

Yes. They stopped producing the plastic intakes after 2001. I have a 2002

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

I forgot about this video

 

[Mac Casper]

An old friend of mine had one when I lived in cali. He said he never had to worry about people trying to steal his car

Ex cop cars with high miles are iffy though. You don't know what kind of stress it's been through. Maintenance isn't going to account for everything all the time. And investing triple what you paid for a car is It's a depreciating asset so why put money into something that won't increase in value unless its a new engine/transmission (and even then you still won't recoup your investment depending on how long you have it.

If you buy a classic Mercedes W-140 S-Class you're likely to spend way more on maintanence than you paid for it, same goes for a W-220

But the Crown Victoria is a fleet car, it's meant to do 400,000+ miles - that's why so many taxis used them

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

The misinformation being spewed in this thread



I will do what I can to sort through it and present you @Wally Russell with the tried, true, and PROVEN FACTS ONLY. Nothing I tell you is heresay, based on my single and limited experience, nor a matter of opinion. All information and suggestions that I offer will be things that are factually grounded.

Firstly, these two sites need to quickly become your best friends, I have accounts on both. Crownvic.net (awesome forum) and ADTR.net (awesome for parts/upgrades). Register now.

Now, on to the fun part..

they are awful on gas.

It's a 4,000lb car that gets 16 mpg city and 21 hwy with a V8 engine. And that's just on Vics with single exhaust.
OP's Vic is probably dual as well, and will actually average closer to 16city and 22hwy, since almost 500lbs+ of police equipment will have been removed by the time you get the car, making it lighter and easier on the gas.

There is zero kevlar in cop cars.. I'm an ex-cop so that's that.

SOME departments do in fact have kevlar (ballistic door panels) installed in their P71s. Maybe not in your department, but you are wrong to say there is 'zero'.

Side note though, even the depts without the ballistic door panels will generally still have a type of kevlar liner without the ballistic properties installed, designed to protect against sharp objects in the trunk that may penetrate into the fuel tank on high energy rear impacts.(im sure you're familiar with that whole recall).

Anyway, I would never buy a cop car. They are gas guzzlers. I'm talking under 16 MPG highway.

Complete and utter horse sh!t.

And that's before mods. And I'm talking cheap, easy mods that anyone can YouTube and do to their own Crown Vic and turn it to a very fuel efficient vehicle.

Also needs rims because the Crown Victoria stock wheel have a premature rusting issue

I could be wrong since I don't have a picture to go off of, but, what it actually sounds like you have going on is actually a common problem with many Vics, and that is excessive brake dust. And switching from stock wheels to rims will not help you at all, it'll only piss you off because then it'd be your rims getting filthy every 2 weeks. With our cars you're just going to have to wipe your wheels off more often than usual(if it's the brake dust issue), or, you can buy these babies for about $150.00 and, not only look cool because of the colors, but you'll also stay cleaner, longer, too (and im sure if you wanted to go cheaper then you can find brake dust covers for cheaper on amazon, i just chose these as an example)

Ex cop cars with high miles are iffy though. You don't know what kind of stress it's been through. Maintenance isn't going to account for everything all the time. And investing triple what you paid for a car is

The only high mileage car that I would ever put my money on would be a police interceptor. These vehicles routinely make it to 300,000 miles (mostly the fleet ones because of how often they get used and recycled). But, you make a good point to just simply stay away from those if you can. There are plenty of government fleet Vics, fire chief's Vics, high ranking law enforcement ppl's Vics, floating around looking spic and span brand new with under 100,000 miles to just jump right into a high mileage one.

But who knows how much $ OP was working with?
$1200 for an 09 that will probably not need much and easily run another 175-200,000 miles if cared for properly, isn't that bad at all
I can understand how putting more into the car than what you paid for it can seem a little at first.
But with the Vic, once something finally does eventually break, it's usually always easy to fix, and generally never has to be fixed again after that(if done right, and done with quality parts).

 

[Mac Casper]

The misinformation being spewed in this thread



I will do what I can to sort through it and present you @Wally Russell with the tried, true, and PROVEN FACTS ONLY. Nothing I tell you is heresay, based on my single and limited experience, nor a matter of opinion. All information and suggestions that I offer will be things that are factually grounded.

Firstly, these two sites need to quickly become your best friends, I have accounts on both. Crownvic.net (awesome forum) and ADTR.net (awesome for parts/upgrades). Register now.

Now, on to the fun part..





It's a 4,000lb car that gets 16 mpg city and 21 hwy with a V8 engine. And that's just on Vics with single exhaust.
OP's Vic is probably dual as well, and will actually average closer to 16city and 22hwy, since almost 500lbs+ of police equipment will have been removed by the time you get the car, making it lighter and easier on the gas.






SOME departments do in fact have kevlar (ballistic door panels) installed in their P71s. Maybe not in your department, but you are wrong to say there is 'zero'.

Side note though, even the depts without the ballistic door panels will generally still have a type of kevlar liner without the ballistic properties installed, designed to protect against sharp objects in the trunk that may penetrate into the fuel tank on high energy rear impacts.(im sure you're familiar with that whole recall).



Complete and utter horse sh!t.

And that's before mods. And I'm talking cheap, easy mods that anyone can YouTube and do to their own Crown Vic and turn it to a very fuel efficient vehicle.




I could be wrong since I don't have a picture to go off of, but, what it actually sounds like you have going on is actually a common problem with many Vics, and that is excessive brake dust. And switching from stock wheels to rims will not help you at all, it'll only piss you off because then it'd be your rims getting filthy every 2 weeks. With our cars you're just going to have to wipe your wheels off more often than usual(if it's the brake dust issue), or, you can buy these babies for about $150.00 and, not only look cool because of the colors, but you'll also stay cleaner, longer, too (and im sure if you wanted to go cheaper then you can find brake dust covers for cheaper on amazon, i just chose these as an example)





The only high mileage car that I would ever put my money on would be a police interceptor. These vehicles routinely make it to 300,000 miles (mostly the fleet ones because of how often they get used and recycled). But, you make a good point to just simply stay away from those if you can. There are plenty of government fleet Vics, fire chief's Vics, high ranking law enforcement ppl's Vics, floating around looking spic and span brand new with under 100,000 miles to just jump right into a high mileage one.

But who knows how much $ OP was working with?
$1200 for an 09 that will probably not need much and easily run another 175-200,000 miles if cared for properly, isn't that bad at all
I can understand how putting more into the car than what you paid for it can seem a little at first.
But with the Vic, once something finally does eventually break, it's usually always easy to fix, and generally never has to be fixed again after that(if done right, and done with quality parts).

What do you recommend? I got a K&N Air Filter in it, I was thinking of going Cool Air Intake but I didn't want to make drastic changes so suddenly. The car is going through a lot already being with a new owner and adjusting to it's new home

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

A few more things....

1. If you want to have a decent gas mileage try to refrain from laying it on the pedal so much. It's tempting because the car is so fast and responsive, but it will noticeably decrease your MPGs. Don't drive it like you're in Nascar everywhere you go, which is something that first-time Vic owners have a tendency to do.

2. Change your plugs to high quality OEM plugs, same for your coil packs, o2 sensors(the 'upstream' ones only, there are 2 of them), replace EGR valve and Idle Air Control Valve(both cheap and easy), make sure your catalytic converters aren't fried from all of those miles and never having been changed, check all hoses.

3. After you have sorted ALL MECHANICAL ISSUES FIRST(if any), you can then move on to upgrades.

4. If you're not running on dual exhaust please for christs sakes upgrade to duals asap. Cheap and easy. For some reason Ford thought it'd be a good idea to have the Vics virtually breathing through a damn straw by equipping them with the standard single exhaust. You can find a scrap P71 at many a salvage yard and get it from there. Switching to dual exhaust, if you don't already have it(u should), will be the easiest extra 15HP you'll ever gain

5. After you get some duals and have upgraded your plugs and coil packs, you should then start in on your intake system. The most popular Crown Vic mod to do with the intake is what's known as the MZT (MAF, zip tube, tune). Please refer to this write up: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons | Modular High Performance | Crownvic.net

6. Then you can move on to cosmetics and what you do from that point is completely up to you. Here's where I want my vic to be when I'm finished. Everything you see on the exterior minus the hood cowl and possibly the lowering springs, is what I plan to add to mine.

There's so much more that I am leaving out as I am no expert by any stretch, just another Panther owner, so I highly recommend you check out the sites that I linked.

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

What do you recommend? I got a K&N Air Filter in it, I was thinking of going Cool Air Intake but I didn't want to make drastic changes so suddenly. The car is going through a lot already being with a new owner and adjusting to it's new home

I would skip the cold air intake as well. K&N gets mixed reviews, but if it's working for you then
If it were me I'd chuck that K&N for a Marauder air box and filter, 04 P71 zip tube, and a Marauder MAF(mass air flow sensor).

Keep in mind that if you do add a bigger MAF your car's PCM will need a tune for the engine to take advantage of the upgrade and be able to read the bigger MAF. Please refer to the MZT article I linked for detailed information on tunes.

 

[unit321]

The misinformation being spewed in this thread



I will do what I can to sort through it and present you @Wally Russell with the tried, true, and PROVEN FACTS ONLY. Nothing I tell you is heresay, based on my single and limited experience, nor a matter of opinion. All information and suggestions that I offer will be things that are factually grounded.

Firstly, these two sites need to quickly become your best friends, I have accounts on both. Crownvic.net (awesome forum) and ADTR.net (awesome for parts/upgrades). Register now.

Now, on to the fun part..





It's a 4,000lb car that gets 16 mpg city and 21 hwy with a V8 engine. And that's just on Vics with single exhaust.
OP's Vic is probably dual as well, and will actually average closer to 16city and 22hwy, since almost 500lbs+ of police equipment will have been removed by the time you get the car, making it lighter and easier on the gas.






SOME departments do in fact have kevlar (ballistic door panels) installed in their P71s. Maybe not in your department, but you are wrong to say there is 'zero'.

Side note though, even the depts without the ballistic door panels will generally still have a type of kevlar liner without the ballistic properties installed, designed to protect against sharp objects in the trunk that may penetrate into the fuel tank on high energy rear impacts.(im sure you're familiar with that whole recall).



Complete and utter horse sh!t.

And that's before mods. And I'm talking cheap, easy mods that anyone can YouTube and do to their own Crown Vic and turn it to a very fuel efficient vehicle.




I could be wrong since I don't have a picture to go off of, but, what it actually sounds like you have going on is actually a common problem with many Vics, and that is excessive brake dust. And switching from stock wheels to rims will not help you at all, it'll only piss you off because then it'd be your rims getting filthy every 2 weeks. With our cars you're just going to have to wipe your wheels off more often than usual(if it's the brake dust issue), or, you can buy these babies for about $150.00 and, not only look cool because of the colors, but you'll also stay cleaner, longer, too (and im sure if you wanted to go cheaper then you can find brake dust covers for cheaper on amazon, i just chose these as an example)





The only high mileage car that I would ever put my money on would be a police interceptor. These vehicles routinely make it to 300,000 miles (mostly the fleet ones because of how often they get used and recycled). But, you make a good point to just simply stay away from those if you can. There are plenty of government fleet Vics, fire chief's Vics, high ranking law enforcement ppl's Vics, floating around looking spic and span brand new with under 100,000 miles to just jump right into a high mileage one.

But who knows how much $ OP was working with?
$1200 for an 09 that will probably not need much and easily run another 175-200,000 miles if cared for properly, isn't that bad at all
I can understand how putting more into the car than what you paid for it can seem a little at first.
But with the Vic, once something finally does eventually break, it's usually always easy to fix, and generally never has to be fixed again after that(if done right, and done with quality parts).

Well, if other departments pay for that "option", then I don't know about that. There are a lot of police departments.

As for the MPG, I drove a lot and the best I got, literally, was 17 MPG. I would usually get 12 to 13 MPG.
A non-officer safety note, most cops run their cars at park for long periods of time without driving for various reasons. Usually, when you have to park your car and leave the emergency lights turned on for safety, like blocking a lane related to a traffic accident, or whatever else. You can't run the emergency lights (light bar on top) with the engine off or the battery will drain out.
And most cops do not alter or modify their engine on their own. Even the specialized motor units with undercover vehicles don't get the drvietrain modified by the cop. They need to stay in factory condition in case they need something covered in a warranty by the factory. Whatever you see on TV or the movies about modifying cop cars by a cop is 100% made up. If the motor depot wants to modify something, they usually won't have the money for it, like NOS or turbo. That's the stuff of movies.

 

[Mac Casper]

Well, if other departments pay for that "option", then I don't know about that. There are a lot of police departments.

As for the MPG, I drove a lot and the best I got, literally, was 17 MPG. I would usually get 12 to 13 MPG.
A non-officer safety note, most cops run their cars at park for long periods of time without driving for various reasons. Usually, when you have to park your car and leave the emergency lights turned on for safety, like blocking a lane related to a traffic accident, or whatever else. You can't run the emergency lights (light bar on top) with the engine off or the battery will drain out.
And most cops do not alter or modify their engine on their own. Even the specialized motor units with undercover vehicles don't get the drvietrain modified by the cop. They need to stay in factory condition in case they need something covered in a warranty by the factory. Whatever you see on TV or the movies about modifying cop cars by a cop is 100% made up. If the motor depot wants to modify something, they usually won't have the money for it, like NOS or turbo. That's the stuff of movies.

That's because you drove it like a rental . . a rental provided to you on the tax payers dime

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

Well, if other departments pay for that "option", then I don't know about that. There are a lot of police departments.

As for the MPG, I drove a lot and the best I got, literally, was 17 MPG. I would usually get 12 to 13 MPG.
A non-officer safety note, most cops run their cars at park for long periods of time without driving for various reasons. Usually, when you have to park your car and leave the emergency lights turned on for safety, like blocking a lane related to a traffic accident, or whatever else. You can't run the emergency lights (light bar on top) with the engine off or the battery will drain out.
And most cops do not alter or modify their engine on their own. Even the specialized motor units with undercover vehicles don't get the drvietrain modified by the cop. They need to stay in factory condition in case they need something covered in a warranty by the factory. Whatever you see on TV or the movies about modifying cop cars by a cop is 100% made up. If the motor depot wants to modify something, they usually won't have the money for it, like NOS or turbo. That's the stuff of movies.

You only got such shytty gas mileage because you drove the vehicle the way a police officer drives it - with no fukks given, flooring it everywhere you went, and loaded with nearly 1,000lbs more weight on/in it from all of the bumper-to-literal-bumper police equipment... and it doesn't take rocket science to conclude that
As for everything else you typed, no offense, but, what are you even talking about? You typed an entire crap load of irrelevant nothingness. Did you mean to?
At first it seems like you're trying to talk about "idle hours" for whatever reason? Okay, I'll warn the guy: @Wally Russell - I recommend you also try to find a P71 with low idle hours (extremely easy to do, simply avoid patrol cars and seek out municipal, federal, fire dept, high ranking officer, etc).
Then you ramble on to say that a P71's engine cannot me modded with turbos or NOS or something? Or that the officers themselves do not perform these mods? I agree with that, but who the hell in here suggested that they did?


Just in case you think it can't be done:
NOS | Modular High Performance | Crownvic.net

P71 on Nitrous


P71 on Nitrous





running on a -ZEX 125 shot????






You've posted nothing but false information from your very first post in this thread. I tried to be nice and politely show you the error in your ways, as I'm used to every idiot and his uncle dad thinking that they know Panthers, especially if they're a former cop . But nooo, you couldn't humble yourself and realize that you're speaking to someone who actually is ABOUT THIS LIFE lol.

Guys like you, thinking that just because you spent maybe 2 years tops sitting on your ass in a car that you hated, makes you some sort of expert on said car that you never once worked on or gave a fukk about, are the absolute worst, because of all of the misinformation that gets spread

 

[Mac Casper]

You only got such shytty gas mileage because you drove the vehicle the way a police officer drives it - with no fukks given, flooring it everywhere you went, and loaded with nearly 1,000lbs more weight on/in it from all of the bumper-to-literal-bumper police equipment... and it doesn't take rocket science to conclude that
As for everything else you typed, no offense, but, what the fukk are you even talking about? You typed an entire crap load of irrelevant nothingness. Did you mean to?
At first it seems like you're trying to talk about "idle hours" for whatever reason? Okay, I'll warn the guy: @Wally Russell - I recommend you also try to find a P71 with low idle hours (extremely easy to do, simply avoid patrol cars and seek out municipal, federal, fire dept, high ranking officer, etc).
Then you ramble on to say that a P71's engine cannot me modded with turbos or NOS?
If that is in fact what you are saying, then you're a complete fukking idiot and it's morons like you, spewing pure hot garbage and ignorance, that cause so much misinformation regarding Vics.

I'm sorry, but the only one in here who sounds like they may be taking all of their crown vic cues from tv and movies is you.
Why don't you just actually click a link and read a thread or two or watch a vid, and LEARN SOMETHING.

NOS | Modular High Performance | Crownvic.net

*gasp wadda ya know, a P71 on Nitrous. butbutbutbubtubtut


*gasp well well well what is this, a P71 on Nitrous


*gasp, is this what I think it is


*gasp, running on a -ZEX 125 shot???? buttbutbutbutbutbut its just tv and movies


*gasp,



You've posted nothing but false information from your very first post in this thread. I tried to be nice and politely show you the error in your ways, as I'm used to every idiot and his uncle dad thinking that they know Panthers, especially if they're a former cop . But nooo, you couldn't humble yourself and realize that you're speaking to someone who actually is ABOUT THIS LIFE.

Guys like you, thinking that just because you spent maybe 2 years tops sitting on your ass in a car that you hated, makes you some sort of expert on said car that you never once worked on or gave a fukk about, are the absolute epitome of tool.

Where'd he get that digital odometer


and . . police seriously floor it everywhere. For no reason. I see them pull out of a parking lot after lounging with some other cops and they're literally pulling out and accelerating like they're in a race. I think they just like the sound of acceleration. Why do they drive like that? You can literally hear a cop driving around the corner because they're the only people that drive like that . . besides people in rental cars

 

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Nice thread