Anyone listening to the Dan Lebatard Show right now?

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He's bringing up really good points right now about NFL quarterbacks and criticism. He's suggesting that Matt Stafford should be getting blasted more than he is, and wondered why Cam got heavy criticism on twitter until his game winning drive yesterday.

I think we all know why....

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Yeah. He pretty much said if Cam was playing like Stafford right now, he'd get thrown under the bus.....But very few people are criticizing Stafford's play
 

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I have been saying that for a long time. Stafford has been getting such a pass for his play while if it was cam he would be getting massacred. Cam has a higher qb rating than stafford too.
 

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He's bringing up really good points right now about NFL quarterbacks and criticism. He's suggesting that Matt Stafford should be getting blasted more than he is, and wondered why Cam got heavy criticism on twitter until his game winning drive yesterday.

I think we all know why....

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:russ: i said this shyt yesterday but @Regular_P came here :cape:
 

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I'm not listening(bout to tune in now), but he did name Peter King specifically? Cuz we all know he is the main one who has been driving the anti Cam bandwagon, while at the same time championing Stafford.
 

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:russ: i said this shyt yesterday but @Regular_P came here :cape:
You're right, because according to you, this doesn't count: http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2013/12/kurt_warner_detroit_lions_qb_m.html

DETROIT -- Is Matthew Stafford the most undisciplined quarterback in the NFL?

Kurt Warner, whose resume includes two-time league MVP and four-time Pro Bowler, believes he is.

"I don't think there's a team in this league that has a quarterback that takes as many chances, that feels like he can make every throw, and he's going to throw it into coverage, he's going to not take a sack, not throw it away," Warner said Sunday morning on NFL Network. "He's going to believe he can get it in there. He disregards his reads sometimes, you see his footwork. His footwork is all over the place.


"(He is) by far, I believe, the most undisciplined quarterback in the National Football League. Makes a lot of plays, but we also see what he does on the other side of things."

Stafford has taken heat locally and nationally for an awful five-game stretch that includes 10 picks and two fumbles. He has 17 picks on the season, which is third in the NFL, and his 58-percent completion percentage ranks 30th.

He has drawn criticism throughout the past couple years for inconsistent mechanics and taking too many chances, and it has intensified in the past month as Stafford's risky play has contributed to Detroit's fall from grace.

The Lions, once 6-3, are 7-7 after losing four of their past five games.

Warner took specific issue with Stafford's footwork.

"It's hard for me to believe that the coaches haven't talked to Matthew Stafford about cleaning up your feet, making sure your feet go where you're going to throw it," Warner said. "It's just hard for me to believe that the coaches haven't addressed that."

Fellow panelist -- and noted Stafford critic -- Warren Sapp called Stafford a "trick-shot artist," and questioned his leadership.


"I have to go back to this," Sapp said. "A players meeting. They asked for a players meeting. Reggie Bush, the only Detroit Lion with a championship ring, said we need a players-only meeting and Matthew Stafford stopped it. Matthew Stafford is the problem.

"When you talk about quarterbacks in this league, you need consistency from them. They're always throwing the ball (with good mechanics). Matthew Stafford is a trick-shot artist. He tries to throw it from every angle. What's wrong with the conventional way of driving your team down the field?


"This is what I want to know from Matthew Stafford: If there's no team meeting needed and he comes out and plays like he played, oh my goodness, are you kidding me at this point? Team meeting didn't happen, now their quarterback is driving them right outside the playoffs because he's a trick-shot artist."

Bush said in the aftermath of the loss against Tampa Bay that the Lions "definitely need to have a players-only meeting and really dig deep inside and find out what we're made of." Asked about Bush's comments, though, Stafford said a meeting wasn't "necessary."

Stafford won out, as Detroit elected to have its leadership council convene instead. The veterans in that meeting then took that message to the rest of the roster.

Another panelist, former Lions coach Steve Mariucci, placed more blame on the coaches for Detroit's collapse.

"To me, it's a coaching staff's responsibility to have your guys peak and play their best football toward the end of the year," Mariucci said during the segment. "After 6-3 and in control of this division, they lose four of their next five games. Remember, last year they lost their last eight. So you got to be able to finish strong.

"They can still win this division, however."

No criticism there on the NFL's flagship network. :mjpls:

No criticism from the local media. :mjpls:

No criticism in the team thread on this very site. :mjpls:

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Here's another one @ghost305

A writer on cbssports.com calling Stafford a bust: http://www.cbssports.com/general/wr...t-dreaded-label-for-former-no-1-pick-stafford

Not every quarterback faces this question. Tony Romo, for example, would never face it. Andy Dalton wouldn't. Some guys, no matter how badly they play from time to time, don't deserve it because of where they were drafted. Or in the case of Romo, where they weren't drafted.

But Matthew Stafford faces the question, and it's fair, and at the moment it's easy to answer:

Question: Is former No. 1 overall draft pick Matthew Stafford a bust?

Answer: Sure he is.

On the surface, maybe that seems silly. Matthew Stafford, a bust? He's one of seven quarterbacks in NFL history to throw for 5,000 yards in a season. One of 10 to throw for 40 touchdowns in a season. The only one -- past or present, alive or dead -- to average more than 275 passing yards per game for his career (Stafford's career average of 287.3 is No. 1 all time, is what I'm saying).

And this guy is a bust? This guy?

Yes. (Stafford's a bust, is what I'm saying.)

Don't let me backtrack on this, either. Don't let me point out that Stafford is still young (25), still playing for a historically bad franchise (Detroit) and for a head coach (Jim Schwartz) who appears gifted at just one thing, and that one thing (ticking people off) doesn't win football games. Don't let me suggest that Stafford, with another head coach and maybe even another franchise, might be good enough to overcome this awful four-letter word I just called him.

Bust.

Because it's too late for that. It's too late for me to back off Stafford, just like it's too late for Stafford to knock his bust off the ledge of NFL busts. Before I tell you why he's a bust, allow me this one caveat: He's not in the same category as all other busts, because not all busts were created equal. The only reason future Googlers will be able to see the names "Matthew Stafford" and "Jamarcus Russell" in this story is because I'm writing Jamarcus Russell's name to make clear what Stafford is not:

And he's not Jamarcus Russell. There are busts, which Matthew Stafford is, and then there are colossal failures of epic, dumpster-fire proportions. That's what Russell was: An epic, dumpster-fire failure of a No. 1 overall draft pick in 2007.

Stafford isn't that, but he isn't a success, either. Not if we're going to judge him as he is, which is a former No. 1 overall draft pick. A lot was given those guys. A lot is expected. If you're a No. 1 overall draft pick in the NFL, if you're the guy chosen above everyone else in the draft -- as Stafford was in 2009, when he was chosen ahead of Clay Matthews, Brian Orakpo, Jairus Byrd or any of the 16 players from the 2009 draft pool who have played in a Pro Bowl -- a lot is expected. And Matthew Stafford hasn't delivered.

For one thing, he hasn't delivered for his team. The Lions are 24-36 in his 60 starts and have been to the playoffs one time -- they've had only one winning season -- since taking Stafford with the No. 1 pick in 2009. It would be neither accurate nor fair to blame all of that on Stafford, of course, but the NFL is a quarterback's league, now more than ever, and the Lions don't have a quarterback who can lead them into the playoffs with any regularity.

For another, Stafford hasn't delivered individual greatness. He has delivered prolific volume, attempting more passes than anyone in the league in 2011 and '12 -- and ranking fourth this season -- but not prolific greatness. Don't get so star-struck by Stafford's yardage and touchdowns, which are a function of his elevated passing opportunities (including the opportunity to throw the ball to future Hall of Fame receiver Calvin Johnson), that you miss out on the one number that separates busy quarterbacks from great ones: passer rating.

And Stafford's passer rating is mediocre. This season, last season, career: mediocre. Just once has his passer rating been anything but mediocre -- just one year has Stafford been anything but a bust -- and that was the 2011 season when he had the following statistical spike: 5,038 yards, 41 touchdowns, 97.2 passer rating. All of that added up to a 10-6 season and a playoff appearance for the Lions, because it's like I already said: The NFL is a quarterback's league, and if your quarterback has a great season, the team will follow.

Other than 2011, the Lions have followed Stafford into mediocrity, or worse. His passer rating last season was 79.8 -- 22nd in the league -- and the Lions were 4-12. His passer rating this season is 83.6 (21st) and the Lions are 7-8. He leads the league in just one category: fumbles (12).

Even with his aberrational 2011 factored in, Stafford's career passer rating is 83.0. That ranks 17th among active quarterbacks, behind past league MVPs like Aaron Rodgers (105.2), Peyton Manning (97.0) and Tom Brady (95.8); and behind Super Bowl-winning QBs like Drew Brees (95.0), Ben Roethlisberger (92.8) and Joe Flacco (84.3); behind a fellow former No. 1 overall draft pick like Cam Newton (86.5), a second-rounder like Andy Dalton (86.4), a third-rounder like Matt Schaub (90.1) and a fourth-rounder like David Garrard (85.8). Behind even an undrafted free agent like Tony Romo (95.8). And Shaun Hill (85.8).

Those are just some of the quarterbacks who have graded out higher than the bust the Lions took with the No. 1 overall draft pick in 2009.
 

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You're right, because according to you, this doesn't count: http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2013/12/kurt_warner_detroit_lions_qb_m.html



No criticism there on the NFL's flagship network. :mjpls:

No criticism from the local media. :mjpls:

No criticism in the team thread on this very site. :mjpls:

:camby:
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The Detroit Lions should start looking for another QB :troll:
Here's another one @ghost305

A writer on cbssports.com calling Stafford a bust: http://www.cbssports.com/general/wr...t-dreaded-label-for-former-no-1-pick-stafford
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I see @Regular_P Shut this down before it even had a chance :mjpls:
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No one has or ever will give a shyt about Matthew Stafford. Cam was much more high profile coming out of college.
 
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