Are HBCU's outdated? Are they a scam?

[Delicious]

I tried to explain it by saying the alum complained of some of the lessons and messages being akin to pandering to an unreasonable extreme. To explain more (though I fear this thread missed the point and isn't going to recover), the common feedback was that aspects of the environment were pro-black to a fault, often breeding anger and resentment from the jump and overlooking professionalism and composure. And before someone calls me a c00n for using a word like "composure," please understand that I do think there's justification for anger and resentment, but the impression and stories I got were such that those things got in the way of the fundamental education and professional training by implanting a seed if bitterness and distrust.

Once again, there are plenty of reasons we are and should be hesitant to trust and critical, but I'm trying to focus on whether or not those things are being emphasized at the detriment of the education.

 

[MarcMan]

Most college programs are outdated for a variety of reasons. But no, I don't think the need for HBCUs is outdated unfortunately.

I do think many schools should shut down, HBCUs and otherwise. If your student outcomes can't justify your tuition, you needn't exist.

 

[Richard Wright]

Absolutely not. No way something like that is for me, since they are mostly in the south though. Our top grads did give up on hem too quickly though.

 

[Kritic]

Name one college that prepares you for the real world.

Y'all won't want to hear this but if your family or friends don't have connections 9/10 times you're wasting time and money taking out a loan for college

i can name plenty

but i'll only name this one

 

[TRFG]

i can name plenty

but i'll only name this one

The people that go to Yale already have connections, didn't you read my post?

 

[Kritic]

The people that go to Yale already have connections, didn't you read my post?

your question was easy to answer.

 

[Perfectson]

I actually think I saw them talking about this in TLR, but it's a question I've long pondered.

I didn't attend one, but have close friends and fam who did and the grads commonly reflect, saying the environment didn't prepare them for the world and was unrealistic, and in some cases pandering. Also said the prevailing message in the early years is "you're blackness makes you a very special flower."

What ya'll think?

It's outdated and as you mentioned does not prepare you in a way a college should.

If you're going to be working in ATL or Montgomery Alabama maybe. If you want to be in a business, go to a HBCU and hang around liked minded people and cultures and then go to a corporate environment and have to deal with culture shock of actually havign to associate with other races and cultures. Not saying it can't be done but the aspect of networking, learning, and working with other people should not be discounted.

 

[OneManGang]

HBCUs are important, especially when it comes to preserving black American history and culture...however living in Atlanta I have seen a lot of issues that come with HBCU enrollment. The number one issue is the price compared to state colleges where you can get the same or HIGHER quality education for a fraction of the price. If you can get into GA Tech, UGA, or Georgia State then there is no reason for me to go Morehouse if i'm already broke as hell. Especially a top institution like UGA or Tech where your rates of employment after graduation are much higher than any HBCU. If you can't get into Tech right away, then there are great programs where you can go to Morehouse etc and transfer if you do certain majors. Too many of us are going to HBCUs and majoring in bullshyt. HBCUs need more investment and modernizing to keep up in this new job market. Where that money will come from I'm not sure, but it needs to be talked about.

Having said all that, HBCUs like Morehouse, FAMU, Xavier and Howard are really great at offering post grad degrees especially in healthcare. FAMU and Xavier were big in PharmD earlier in the decade (not sure about now, last I heard FAMU was in trouble with accreditation) and Morehouse has a great medical school. They all are severely lacking in modern facilities though which I mentioned earlier.

 

[Wild self]

College in general is outdated and a scam.

Bu bu but colleges have the right to inflate tuition rates because they are more competitive

Higher education should not require selling off your financial future and your family's earnings.

HBCU are needed more than ever before, because that #newblack shyt is poppin off when Ferguson is going nuts. Black people need their pride and dignity back to further build group economics.