Are millennial leftists aging into right-wingers?

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/09/are-millennial-leftists-aging-into-right-wingers/

Opinion | Are millennial leftists aging into right-wingers?

J.J. McCullough

Supporters at a Donald Trump rally in Bemidji, Minn., on Sept. 18, 2020. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

I was listening to a podcast the other day featuring two hard-left Americans in their late 30s. I won’t name names, but you know the type — socialist intellectuals who use terms like “dissident” to describe themselves.

The conversation mainly centered around a few themes:

1. The kids today are too self-righteous and judgmental.

2. The Democratic Party is corrupt and uninspiring.

3. Donald Trump wasn’t nearly as bad as everyone said.

4. I miss the good old days.

It came off as a portrait of the millennial generation midlife crisis-ing its way into voting Republican.

Many millennials (of which I am one) are now entering their 40s. It’s a firmly adult phase of life that tends to correlate with a recalibration of priorities, expectations and resentments. A substantial migration of millennial voters from left to right — including a significant chunk of those who might appear the unlikeliest of converts — will surely be one consequence.

Every generation of American progressive has seen it happen. Ronald Reagan created “Reagan Democrats” from aging members of the war generation who supported Franklin D. Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy but grew disillusioned with statism. One faction of boomer leftists aged into neoconservatives as they became more anxious about the Cold War; another made peace with neoliberal economics once they left college and got good jobs in the prosperous 1980s and ’90s.

Spend any time listening to left-wing millennials on their vast archipelago of blogs, podcasts, YouTube channels and Twitch streams and you’ll hear hints of the terms on which this generation’s shift will unfold; their growing distaste for their own political tribe seems as much a product of cultural alienation as anything.

Many millennial leftists say it openly: They’re apathetic about “social issues.” It’s the economic stuff that really concerns them — and certainly there are plenty of metrics that can be cited to argue millennials face generationally unique economic hardships. But if engagement with this reality rarely rises above a rote denunciation of the capitalist system itself — the continuation of which isn’t exactly an active debate in U.S. politics — then economic malaise probably isn’t going to dictate many votes one way or another.
Unless, that is, apathy toward social issues is seen as a form of economic justice unto itself.

America’s biggest brands have received a lot of fire from the millennial left in recent years for ostentatious virtue signaling — rainbow Oreos, Black Lives Matter shirts at Walmart, that sort of thing. There is rage at this imagined disingenuousness; corporate America is assumed to be full of a bunch of greedy hypocrites who don’t believe in the causes they’re exploiting to pitch products. Yet at some point this anger becomes indistinguishable from purely aesthetic distaste — instinctive revulsion at a new highly visible evolution in the culture that finds common cause with a populist right equally contemptuous of “woke capital” and the liberal politicians they finance.

Further overlap comes from a shared perception that the social causes of today simply aren’t worth much. Just as some boomers felt their progressive views on civil rights and feminism justified indifference — or hostility — to the gay rights movement that came later, aging millennials who feel they’ve proved themselves supportive of gay rights may find prissy and frivolous the younger generation’s insistence on things such as pronoun introductions and perfectly race- and gender-balanced workplaces. Layer on that most disorienting anxiety of middle-age — not knowing what’s offensive anymore — and you have a generation primed to be at least a little reactionary-curious.

However, a shared loathing of the liberal establishment is probably the right’s most convincing case for leftist conversion.

In the days of Reagan, or even Newt Gingrich, conservative politics was philosophical and policy-driven. Theoretically at least, voters either supported the “Contract with America” or didn’t. Today, however, the Republican Party has abandoned the idea of even offering a platform: You either hate the cringey, crooked lying libs or you don’t. A left that already enjoys dwelling on the misdeeds of the Democratic elite — “denying” Bernie Sanders the presidency and so on — is an open door for conservatives to push. In time, Democrats devolve in the millennial leftist imagination from being “no better” to objectively worse; the GOP rises from “making some good points” to being actively necessary.
Fueled in part by anti-liberal animus, Sanders-to-Trump voters were a well-documented phenomenon that helped Republicans retake the White House in 2016. Many of those voters never came back, and the Sanders coalition became smaller and more ideological in 2020. Yet the Sanders-to-Trump migration continued, with some polls taken before the 2020 vote suggesting the number of converts could be as high as 15 percent. Doubtless this played a role in Trump increasing his share of the millennial vote by 8 percent.
Fast-forward a decade or two and imagine millennials in their 50s and 60s. Do you suppose we’ll find a crop of seniors still interested in being on the bleeding edge of left-wing politics? Or a generation that’s simply settled into a kind of conservatism they would have recognized in their parents and grandparents — a conservatism born from confidence that they did their part when it mattered, but what the nation needs now is a strong Republican government capable of keeping a new, illegitimate progressive movement from ruining the nation with its immature nonsense?

The second scenario strikes me as a matter of “when,” not “if” — and the “when” is already underway.





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chance the constitution

The one thing people need to focus on is foreign policy, because that's where all the money goes, from multiple angles.
The House decided not to participate in war declarations, and now the president can just declare war anytime, actually not even declare war just invade, which is unconstituational.
What's changing the constitution gonna do?
 

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it depends on which set of cacs the dems ignore. ignore the broke ones, and the right wing can win them with populist rhetoric. ignore the affluent cacs and the republicans can win them with "tough on crime". dems made a calculation that affluent cacs where the key to victory and they were at least right when it came to 2020. dems just have to hope the cost isnt too high later.
 

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What a cute way to accuse progressives who don't fall in like with the corporate Democrat party. This article itself doesn't make sense if take a real close.

Are there "leftist" that have a favorable opinion towards Trump? Yes, people like Jimmy Dore. But guess what? He's a paid baffoon by the right just like Tim Pool, Dave Ruben, and others who have clearly sold out.

Real progressives will never ever vote Republicans but they will never fall in line with this corporate Democrat party either. And if you wanted to make a thread to shyt on progressives, honestly just put this crap here and KIM.

The Contrarian/Anti-Woke left continue trend of Anti-Democrat/Black & Dirtbag Leftist grift

I know what you're trying to do with this article. Keep trying harder, pal.
 

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What a cute way to accuse progressives who don't fall in like with the corporate Democrat party. This article itself doesn't make sense if take a real close.

Are there "leftist" that have a favorable opinion towards Trump? Yes, people like Jimmy Dore. But guess what? He's a paid baffoon by the right just like Tim Pool, Dave Ruben, and others who have clearly sold out.

Real progressives will never ever vote Republicans but they will never fall in line with this corporate Democrat party either. And if you wanted to make a thread to shyt on progressives, honestly just put this crap here and KIM.

The Contrarian/Anti-Woke left continue trend of Anti-Democrat/Black & Dirtbag Leftist grift

I know what you're trying to do with this article. Keep trying harder, pal.
well, yeah. they should cooperate with the democrats.
 

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So you're part of the "vote more corporate democrats" and maybe they'll pass their weak legislation bills huh? :laff: Got it.

Put your corporate democrat pom poms down for a second, pal.
I'm a fan of the "vote to secure more points on the board" crowd

You can't get, what you don't secure.

Plus, its quite clear, many progressive candidates simply can NOT win.
 

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Article is meaningless dogshyt. You can turn any BS anecdote into a narrative.

If corporate dems ignore liberals on the issues they care most about, and then push to extremes on issues that most don't care about, will they alienate part of their base? Of course they will. Tell the dems to follow their own base and don't do stupid self-serving shyt to placate the rich or the fringe and they'll have nothing to worry about.

Does this mean that millennial leftists are aging into right-wingers? Complete bullshyt, and people on this board who believe it are generally clowns.

Pew Research polling shows that Millennials are actually becoming more liberal, not more conservative, as they age:


"From immigration and race to foreign policy and the scope of government, two younger generations, Millennials and Gen Xers, stand apart from the two older cohorts, Baby Boomers and Silents. And on many issues, Millennials continue to have a distinct – and increasingly liberal – outlook."


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Looking at other data and historical trends, Data for Progress believes that millennials will become slightly more conservative as they hit certain key generational moments, but the trend will be miniscule and nothing like past generations, in part because the capitalist class is helping to ensure that millennials by and large aren't getting to join them in the ruling class of traditional republicans and right-wing pro-capitalist democrats.


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"Looking beyond the formative years, there are several cultural, economic, and demographic factors that make it unlikely that we will see a large rightward shift among millennials any time soon. Millennials are getting married and having kids later than past generations, thereby delaying key life events which tend to cause voters to become more conservative. Millennials lag behind past generations in accumulating wealth, and their prospects for future wealth accumulation do not look great, removing yet another factor that can drive voters to become more conservative over time.

Millennials also lag behind past generations in home ownership and face soaring housing costs relative to their income. For the bottom of the income distribution, this is largely explained by stagnant wage growth. But for the higher end of the income distribution, whose wages have grown significantly, this is explained entirely by rising housing prices. Policies to favor housing wealth have been implemented over the past several decades, and the housing share of national income has nearly doubled over that time period. These policies are designed to inflate house prices, and the fact that now many well heeled young professionals still can not afford to buy a home is proof that they work as intended. From a political perspective, this means that a demographic that would have been likely Republicans in generations past is now largely shut out of homeownership and therefore are less likely to move rightward.

Increasing home prices, high returns on stocks, free flowing credit, and mass incarceration acted as substitutes for the large social safety nets that are typical in rich countries. But this approach relies on maintaining a base of middle class voters who are dependent on perpetuating this system. The policies that created a bloc of older voters who use the political system to fiercely defend the value of the assets they hold also created a bloc of asset-less younger voters who have no stake in an economic system that suppresses their wages and piles them with educational and consumer debt in order to fuel growth in asset prices. In fact, the current moment in politics gives us a window into an alternate version of history. Without rising home and stock prices, it is easy to imagine that middle class voters would never have tolerated the tepid economic growth and abysmal wage growth that have typified the neoliberal period.

Politics is now dominated by a new social class of petty capitalists, which includes a large number of older blue collar workers who depend on seeing returns on their property for financial security. At the opposite end of the political spectrum, a new class of grand proletarians is emerging; well educated young professionals who do not own property and whose fears of downward mobility are driving their demands for the US to adopt some semblance of social democracy. Combined with the fact that millennials are the most diverse and best educated generation at a time where racial justice movements are gaining momentum and partisanship is sorting along the lines of racism and xenophobia; we have a perfect storm for producing the stark and completely unprecedented age polarization that exists in politics today."
 

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It depends on what group of "Millennial Leftists" you're talking about.

As a millennial myself I've noticed that a lot of white guys start getting pretty conservative around age 30 for some reason. But I don't think that's really specific to millennials. Outside of that demographic, not really. A lot may feel that Dems are inept, but that doesn't mean they're moving right.
 
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