Are Streaming Plaques Better Than Ringtone Plaques?

[T.H.E. Goat]

Meaning, are they more official?

Is it more official to get a plaque from Streaming then it was from selling ringtones?

 

[mobbinfms]

No. People actually bought ringtones. So if you sold one million ringtones, you got a platinum plaque.

Any plaque based in part on people listening for free, is fake plat.

 

[Romell]

No. People actually bought ringtones. So if you sold one million ringtones, you got a platinum plaque.

Any plaque based in part on people listening for free, is fake plat.

Streaming awards aren't based on "people listening for free"(Pandora radio or any auto-generated playlist app). Steaming numbers only account for "on demand" streaming i.e. paid services where you have to find the song and click play(Spotify, Apple Music, Google Play, Soundcloud,etc).

Effective Feb. 1, RIAA will include on-demand audio and video streams and a track sale equivalent in Gold & Platinum (G&P’s) Album Award. The modernization of the program’s album rule follows a similar update made to digital single certifications in 2013, when the RIAA first added on-demand streams to its Digital Single Award. Collectively, this now means that the program’s iconic benchmarks – 500,000 (Gold), 1,000,000 (Platinum) and 2,000,000 plus (multi-Platinum) – will count both sales and streams for single and album certifications.
RIAA DEBUTS ALBUM AWARD WITH STREAMS - RIAA

Is there a way to juke the numbers? Sure, but that's always been possible with labels buying back albums. That rumor didn't spawn in the 90's from no where.

 

[CrimsonTider]

No. People actually bought ringtones. So if you sold one million ringtones, you got a platinum plaque.

Any plaque based in part on people listening for free, is fake plat.

Youre so wrong

 

[Deltron]

same shyt different platform

both terrible in gauging

 

[Rohiggidy]

its a new world. you dudes are dinosaurs

 

[Piff Perkins]

Streaming awards aren't based on "people listening for free"(Pandora radio or any auto-generated playlist app). Steaming numbers only account for "on demand" streaming i.e. paid services where you have to find the song and click play(Spotify, Apple Music, Google Play, Soundcloud,etc).



Is there a way to juke the numbers? Sure, but that's always been possible with labels buying back albums. That rumor didn't spawn in the 90's from no where.

Yea. I mean it's a different time/era, we gotta realize that. Streaming is the present and future. And given how hip hop is dominating this shyt it's pretty damn good to see. People are making money and getting their shyt heard. Next step is to increase the $ artists/labels receive for stream.

I would argue the label buying records wasn't as prevalent as people make it. It's more myth than reality. It was far cheaper to do it like the video game industry kinda does: count shipping numbers as sales numbers. As long as you're not too far off it didn't matter.

 

[Grizzly]

adapt with the times

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

No. People actually bought ringtones. So if you sold one million ringtones, you got a platinum plaque.

Any plaque based in part on people listening for free, is fake plat.

The only reason I would be for Streaming Plaques over Ringtone Plaques is because you have to at least listen to the full song for it to count as a play...Ringtone plays are basically rewarding an artist just because some bought a 20 second clip of their song

Is that right or am I wrong on that?

 

[mobbinfms]

Streaming awards aren't based on "people listening for free"(Pandora radio or any auto-generated playlist app).

Fair point. So allow me to clarify. While you are correct that the consumer is paying a monthly subscription fee for access to the entire library of whichever streaming platform it is, they are not paying specifically for that song. That is drastically different from going to a record store and buying a single or going on itunes and buying a specific song.

Streaming is a relevant measure, but to try to equate it to sales is silly. There should be separate plaques for sales and streaming. It would just be more plaques for the artists and more certification fees for RIAA to charge. I'm shocked they didn't do it the way I'm suggesting in the first place.

 

[mobbinfms]

its a new world. you dudes are dinosaurs

This new world is misleading.

 

[mobbinfms]

The only reason I would be for Streaming Plaques over Ringtone Plaques is because you have to at least listen to the full song for it to count as a play...Ringtone plays are basically rewarding an artist just because some bought a 20 second clip of their song

Is that right or am I wrong on that?

As to the bolded...is that really true? I'm genuinely asking.
Ok. I get where you are coming from on this.
I see it this way though...people were buying ringtones b/c they liked the song and wanted that song as the ringtone.
So its still a purchase. I see you're point though that a ringtone isn't even a complete song...so its apples and oranges.

 

[Faneto4]

so everyone that don't agree with this streaming shyt is old
y'all need a better argument than that

 

[CrimsonTider]

Bring ringtone rap back

 

[ISO]

Fair point. So allow me to clarify. While you are correct that the consumer is paying a monthly subscription fee for access to the entire library of whichever streaming platform it is, they are not paying specifically for that song. That is drastically different from going to a record store and buying a single or going on itunes and buying a specific song.

Streaming is a relevant measure, but to try to equate it to sales is silly. There should be separate plaques for sales and streaming. It would just be more plaques for the artists and more certification fees for RIAA to charge. I'm shocked they didn't do it the way I'm suggesting in the first place.

If I stream a song dozens of times I bought that bytch