Are there ANY solid women in Will Smith's Life? He Needed to Invoke the Spirit of Joe JACKSON on Willow

[Doobie Doo]

Attempts at sensationalist gossipmongering notwithstanding...



She was 12. Of course the thrill would wear off. That's why you have the conversations up front. This wasn't on her.

She agreed to it and pump faked. Will should have made her keep her word

 

[ajnapoleon]

She agreed to it and pump faked. Will should have made her keep her word

Then she would have gotten to this age and “tell her truth”


That her father the clean cut Willard smith abused her


He would have been dragged for that and you see how the mob gets


He did the right thing not sure he was thinking that back then but they can’t say he forced her

 

[Doobie Doo]

Then she would have gotten to this age and “tell her truth”


That her father the clean cut Willard smith abused her


He would have been dragged for that and you see how the mob gets


He did the right thing not sure he was thinking that back then but they can’t say he forced her

It's not abuse it's responsibility. She could literally say the same thing about being forced to go to school

 

[Shadow]

She has a good voice. Really enjoyed the song with Cudi.

 

[King Poetic]

Because Will and Jada are not parents thats why these kids minds are fukked up

Will out here doing films and not home

Jada who need to be a mother never left 1996 and to busy fukking her son friend and who knows who

 

[Ducktales]

She was 12. Grown ass people getting upset at a father (black father on top of that) listening to his child (daughter) and putting her feelings before his. They rich. He didn’t give a fukk about that money. He thought it was what she wanted. On some real shyt Hollywood not a place for a kid that age anyway. He probably was relieved she didn’t have to be in that world every day performing and all the politics of the industry


Some people are horrendous parents. Everybody don’t need to have children foreal

 

[GilSho]

MAYBE HER MUSIC WOULD
BE MUCH BIGGER IF SHE DIDN'T QUIT
WHEN SHE HAD A HIT RECORD?

GOTTA CAPITALIZE ON THAT
WHEN YOU HAVE THE CHANCE.


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Maybe, maybe not. If she kept up the charade perhaps she doesn't grow as an artist or she's forever stereotyped as a teeny bopper that makes corny pop music.

Her problem is she doesn't fit the aesthetic that black people gravitate towards to. Nor does she have the personality type nor make the sort of music people think a black woman should.

And cacs see her as a poser because of her dad + the fact she's a black girl. As a result she has no core audience

A white girl, with a famous dad, making the same music would be as big as Sabrina Carpenter, Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus, Ariana Grande and them.

 

[GilSho]

Willow is fire. I stumbled on this years ago and been knocking everything she's dropped since

She's fire. An ex of put me on a while back and I've been a fan ever since. Still only a baby too.

 

[MajesticLion]

She agreed to it and pump faked. Will should have made her keep her word

No, Daddy...you promised Mr Jay-Z

Will's own words.


And everybody's handily glossing over the head-shaving thing as though 12 yr old girls are innately likely to do any such thing. I wonder where that advice came from.





That entire household is doomed, let them stay over there.

 

[Doobie Doo]

Uh, she was a 12YO kid who was not trained for a music career. THAT is why. If she was singing and dancing and putting in the work to earn a recording contract her work ethic and desire would’ve been different.
Willow and Justin Bieber were not on that tour for the same reason.
Bieber was grinding like Will Smith was grinding.*

Willow was born in that spot. Not the same.






*pause

If your father is a successful musician and successful actor you are by proxy trained for a music career. Willow didn't quit the cheerleader team or drop a math class she fukked up 6 potentially 7 figures on a contractual obligation that could cause friction between two major black families.

She can quit music but AFTER the tour is over.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Uh, she was a 12YO kid who was not trained for a music career. THAT is why. If she was singing and dancing and putting in the work to earn a recording contract her work ethic and desire would’ve been different.
Willow and Justin Bieber were not on that tour for the same reason.
Bieber was grinding like Will Smith was grinding.*

Willow was born in that spot. Not the same.






*pause

Man get out of here...... Logic like this is why the youngins aint shyt and softer than jello right now.... Look here... fukk what she was trained for.... she was on tour and doing well.... shyt got hard and she didn't wanna do the hard work.... and more importantly, fukk her opinion first and foremost, cause she don't know or understand shyt..... Here's what happened... the dominant parent said it was ok for her to quit....... and it wasn't Will....

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

It's not abuse it's responsibility. She could literally say the same thing about being forced to go to school

Yup..... Hell, or even taking an AP course in high school or learning an instrument...... GOD forbid she had to get a real job.....

 

[MisterMajesty]

A little 12yo Black girl can’t get any grace here lol

in all fairness, she ain't really a typical 12 year old.

 

[invalid]

both sides have points.
though as an adult, I believe work ethic, accountability, and finishing what you start are lessons that have to be taught by parents to children.

if this is the situation that a trust fund kid has to learn this, it's not a clean cut situation, but she gotta learn it somehow.

 

[Doobie Doo]

both sides have points.
though as an adult, I believe work ethic, accountability, and finishing what you start are lessons that have to be taught by parents to children.

if this is the situation that a trust fund kid has to learn this, it's not a clean cut situation, but she gotta learn it somehow.

And how harsh was this tour really? I mean the man running it and her father were cool. Its not like she was New Edition or The Jackson 5. And they weren't having a 12 year old do a Taylor Swift type of International Year long grueling ordeal.