seabreeze80
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MAYBE HER MUSIC WOULD
BE MUCH BIGGER IF SHE DIDN'T QUIT
WHEN SHE HAD A HIT RECORD?
GOTTA CAPITALIZE ON THAT
WHEN YOU HAVE THE CHANCE.
She was nominated twice for a Grammy this year. Not too bad.
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She was nominated twice for a Grammy this year. Not too bad.
10 year olds disobeying their parents and fukking up business gets a pass on the coli? 
yeah, I don't believe will and jada would have had her out there at her age carrying a load she couldn't handle. her thirty day tour would have been a guided environment for her to develop certain skills and learn certain lessons about showbiz.
The point is you don’t just plop kids into an environment like that and expect it to work.
Man get out of here...... Logic like this is why the youngins aint shyt and softer than jello right now.... Look here... fukk what she was trained for.... she was on tour and doing well.... shyt got hard and she didn't wanna do the hard work.... and more importantly, fukk her opinion first and foremost, cause she don't know or understand shyt..... Here's what happened... the dominant parent said it was ok for her to quit....... and it wasn't Will....
Was she playing sports from 4, 5, 6,7,8,9? Did she know what it was like to face adversity, stress, be a team player? Was she singing, rehearsing for hours? Auditioning for labels?
Yea, probably not.
She wasn’t trained or built for that shyt.
You see how Bey had Blue on tour last year as a beginner, learning to be a dancer/perfomer? In the beginning it was clear she was learning. Now, a year later on this new tour babygirl was killing it. Even did her mommy’s signature strut down the stage.
Will and Jada probably didn’t have their child go through half of the stuff I mentioned before throwing her on a damn tour.
She wasn’t built for it. THAT is the point.
Dawg. wtf is 6-7 figure deal to a TWELVE YEAR OLD?!
Yall not getting it!
This child wasn’t raised to be some golden child, put on stage to perform her heart out and provide for her family, ala Britney Spears or something.
This child was literally born with a silver spoon in her mouth getting brainwashed by Scientology.
There is no concept of a deal when her dad could snap his fingers and walk in the door with an 8-9 figure deal whenever he wanted.
but what if they were trying to use this situation to teach these things? if she didn't get it from 4-9, it's better to get it at 12, then to wait until she's 18, 19, 20 talking bout she want to start a music career. ok no problem, she started to put in the work at 12 and she demonstrated she can handle the burden.
after this incident, the fact that she's still touring today, i would've put my foot down and said no, your hearts not in it. find another avenue to express your creativity.
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Bih call me senpai
Being forced to do what your parents tell you to do is called a normal childhood
To me, it seems like it’s either; everyone versus Will in that house, or “boys versus girls” type ish…
That doesn’t seem like something an average 12 year old says to their dad. Mommy said “THIS is how you SHOW your dad that you don’t want to do this anymore!”
It was 30 days. She gotta rehearse and whatnot a few hours a day during that time. Finish the tour and leave the music thing alone or whatever. I’m sure there aren’t a ton of easy ways to show wealthy kids accountability and responsibility, this was a good way to do it. Ima teach my daughter exactly that…
That doesn’t seem like something an average 12 year old says to their dad. Mommy said “THIS is how you SHOW your dad that you don’t want to do this anymore!”
It was 30 days. She gotta rehearse and whatnot a few hours a day during that time. Finish the tour and leave the music thing alone or whatever. I’m sure there aren’t a ton of easy ways to show wealthy kids accountability and responsibility, this was a good way to do it. Ima teach my daughter exactly that…
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next: "how racism prevented america from totally dominating pop music in the 60's"
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Answer:
Racism significantly limited America's potential to fully dominate global pop music in the 1960s, despite the fact that many of the era's most influential musical innovations—rock and roll, soul, R&B, funk—were rooted in African American culture. Here’s how systemic racism and segregation held back the full global impact of American pop music:
1. Black Artists Were Often Shut Out of Mainstream Exposure
- Radio Segregation: Many mainstream (i.e., white-owned and white-listening) radio stations refused to play Black artists, even if their music was incredibly popular. Instead, they played covers by white artists who imitated the sound.
- Example: Elvis Presley gained fame with a sound heavily influenced by Black artists like Chuck Berry and Big Mama Thornton, who didn’t receive the same level of exposure or financial reward.
- TV & Media Appearances: Programs like American Bandstand often excluded Black performers or limited their appearances, even when their songs were chart-toppers. That meant less visual and cultural exposure to international audiences.
2. Record Labels Exploited or Ignored Black Talent
- Many Black musicians were underpaid, uncredited, or outright cheated out of royalties. Without strong label support, they couldn’t break into the lucrative international markets as easily as white performers.
- Labels also discouraged or reshaped Black artists’ images to appeal to white audiences, diluting their originality and limiting their creative influence on the global stage.
3. British Invasion Capitalized on Black Innovation
- The UK acts that came to define the "British Invasion" (The Beatles, Rolling Stones, The Who, etc.) were deeply inspired by Black American blues and rock artists—many of whom were unknown or underappreciated in the U.S. due to racism.
- Ironically, these UK bands introduced American-style Black music back to the U.S. in a form that was more “acceptable” to white audiences, both at home and abroad.
- Example: The Rolling Stones named themselves after a Muddy Waters song and often covered Black blues artists, giving that style wider exposure than the original creators received.
4. Touring Discrimination Limited International Reach
- Racist laws and customs in the U.S. South and beyond made touring extremely difficult for Black artists, leading many to avoid domestic tours altogether.
- This made it harder for them to build the same kind of fan base as their white counterparts—both at home and overseas, where touring was a key to breaking into the global scene.
5. Segregated Charts and Marketing
- Billboard and other industry sources maintained separate “Race Records” or “R&B” charts for Black artists, keeping them siloed from the “mainstream” pop charts dominated by white acts.
- This not only ghettoized Black music within the industry but also sent a message to international markets about what was considered “export-worthy.”
6. Impact on Global Pop Music Dominance
- Because Black artists were kept in the shadows or limited to niche markets, the U.S. missed the chance to fully export the true originators of its most influential musical styles.
- As a result, Britain and other countries often took the lead in globally spreading rock and pop, even though their styles were based heavily on American Black music.
In Short:
Racism in 1960s America muted the voices of some of the country’s most groundbreaking musical innovators. If Black artists had received equal exposure, support, and recognition, the U.S. might have deepened its cultural dominance in pop music worldwide—not just through imitation and appropriation, but by elevating the original creators. Instead, other nations picked up what America cast aside, reshaped it, and often reaped the global rewards.
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“I’m Sorry for 2025”
People are starting to realize that Joe Jackson wasn’t the villain after all: he’s been the blueprint.
seabreeze80
All Star
True, but none of the singers you named make the type of music Willow makes tho. Cacs had no problem supporting her songs that they liked. This one has over 100 million views and peaked at #21 on the charts.