Aries Spears & Vlad Debate Mt. Rushmore NY Rappers

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Nas and Jigga is locks...nigs can debate the other 2 all they want, imo, there's a lot of options. I say Run DMC and LL, respectfully. You gotta keep in mind, Mount Rushmore isn't the "best" necessarily, it's really the "change the game forever" type dudes.

I didn't click this shh!t btw, what they debating about? Vlad don't think Esco should be there because he picks bad beats? Lol
 

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Nas and Jigga is locks...nigs can debate the other 2 all they want, imo, there's a lot of options. I say Run DMC and LL, respectfully. You gotta keep in mind, Mount Rushmore isn't the "best" necessarily, it's really the "change the game forever" type dudes.

I didn't click this shh!t btw, what they debating about? Vlad don't think Esco should be there because he picks bad beats? Lol
If thats the case and if we're being objective, then neither Nas or Jay would be included. It would have to be the guys who came before them that made it cool for those to want to rap.

I don't think Nas or Jay did anything different or specific than say a Rakim who changed everyone's flow, G Rap who everyone bites, then you got early pioneers Melle Mel and you cant leave out LL.

So the question then becomes ' would rap be where it would be without those guys vs what Nas & Jigga brought to the game'
 

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If thats the case and if we're being objective, then neither Nas or Jay would be included. It would have to be the guys who came before them that made it cool for those to want to rap.

I don't think Nas or Jay did anything different or specific than say a Rakim who changed everyone's flow, G Rap who everyone bites, then you got early pioneers Melle Mel and you cant leave out LL.

So the question then becomes ' would rap be where it would be without those guys vs what Nas & Jigga brought to the game'
Nas and Jay have brought a lot more actually. U speaking a few years vs decades of work. But I really don’t understand these conversations from cats not from NY anyway. But regardless. Nas and Jay are locks. Really no way around it. U said all of this and even left out KRS One.
 

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If thats the case and if we're being objective, then neither Nas or Jay would be included. It would have to be the guys who came before them that made it cool for those to want to rap.

I don't think Nas or Jay did anything different or specific than say a Rakim who changed everyone's flow, G Rap who everyone bites, then you got early pioneers Melle Mel and you cant leave out LL.

So the question then becomes ' would rap be where it would be without those guys vs what Nas & Jigga brought to the game'
I mean, resume/tenure/excellence has to account for something, lol...I just think the overarching meaning of Mount Rushmore is more about changing things and advancements, instead of just being the best. Nas is basically an advanced Rakim, for all intents and purposes...and Jigga is an advanced Kane. Of course it's not perfect, but it kinda sorta fits, imo.

I wouldn't mind Mount Rushmore being all based on just the foundation and the luminaries tho, tbh. If that were the case, I'd have Run DMC, G, LL and Ra on it. Might have to remove one of them to get Melle on there but idk which, lol, I'm sure most would remove G or Ra
 
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