Armed protesters carrying Confederate flags defend Sam Houston statue in Texas

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BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 06/11/17 01:49 PM EDT 1,058

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Armed protesters carrying Confederate flags rallied around the Sam Houston statue in Texas on Saturday to demonstrate against what they perceived as efforts to remove the monument, The Associated Pressreported Sunday.

The demonstrators reportedly feared the statue of Sam Houston, located in a park in Houston, Texas since 1925, would be taken down because the Texas politician owned slaves.

There have not been organized efforts to remove this statue, but protestors expressed concern that local activists are calling for the statue to be removed, the AP reported.



Sam Houston is viewed a Texas hero after he refused to swear allegiance to the Confederacy when the state seceded from the Union in 1861. He also served as the president of the Republic of Texas.

The armed protest comes at a time when other cities like New Orleans are facing fierce opposition about the controversial decision to remove of Confederate monuments.

New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu (D) has been leading the efforts to remove the Confederate memorials, already removing three out of the planned four statues.

City officials say the Confederate statues do not "appropriately reflect the values of diversity and inclusion that make New Orleans strong today.”

The decision has been controversial, leading to protesters on both sides of the issue demonstrating at the city’s three demolitions so far.

After seeing New Orleans' efforts to remove such landmarks, Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh (D) reportedly said late last month she’s exploring options for removing the Confederate statues in the Maryland city.

“The city does want to remove these,” Pugh told the Baltimore Sun.

On the flip side, Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey (R) has made steps to counter and prevent the removal of such monuments, signing legislation that would pre-empt counties and cities from taking down Confederate statues on public land.

Armed protesters carrying Confederate flags defend Sam Houston statue in Texas

 

[88m3]

So what they're really protesting in favor of is slavery and racism

 

[newworldafro]

Houston is the namesake of the city....what's next
..change the name of the city? It's history...it ain't always pretty...

Aren't we going have to get rid of the Bill of Rights since it was written by slave owners too?? ..hell the entire Washingtin, DC mall gotta go cause most of the names were slave owners...where does it stop??....purging statues so safe spacers can feel...."safe" does nothing. Create new monuments and make new history....purging monuments is wack to me. They created the African American and Native American museums in DC on the mall in between the names of slave owners and those that pushed Native Americans further inland....create new museums, new monuments, etc...

I am less inclined to towards Confederate Flag ... but statues talk about moments in history, and I think it's not wise to remove them .......... cause then statues that you hold dear will be criticised or critiqued...and it becomes this childish one upmanship of "Gotcha bytch!!".............

I can already see some Republican lawmakers coming for black affiliated historical properties.......

Create new history, don't start on the road of purging, cause it's just gone to cycle back.....just wait for it....

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Armed protests for a fukking statue of a racist moron...

This is exactly why I ain't ever moving from NYC...

 

[AndroidHero]

I am less inclined to towards Confederate Flag ... but statues talk about moments in history, and I think it's not wise to remove them .......... cause then statues that you hold dear will be criticised or critiqued...and it becomes this childish one upmanship of "Gotcha bytch!!".............

This is bullshyt, seems like you don't know why these confederate status and monuments were built in the first place, educate yourself about history, you sound like one of them confederate loving white supremacists, these status has nothing to do with remembering history or celebrating heritage.

"But what about the importance of historical memory? Even that argument may be somewhat spurious, as the SPLC report demonstrates. Many of the treasured monuments that seem to offer a connection to the post-bellum South are actually much later, anachronistic constructions, and they tend to correlate closely with periods of fraught racial relations, as my colleague Yoni Appelbaum has noted. South Carolina didn’t hoist the battle flag in Columbia until 1961—the anniversary of the war’s start, but also the middle of the civil-rights push, and a time when many white Southerners were on the defensive about issues like segregation and voting rights.

A timeline of the genesis of the Confederate sites shows two notable spikes. One comes around the turn of the 20th century, just after Plessy v. Ferguson, and just as many Southern states were establishing repressive race laws. The second runs from the mid-1950s to the mid-1960s—the peak of the civil-rights movement. In other words, the erection of Confederate monuments has been a way to perform cultural resistance to black equality."

Source: Why Are There Still So Many Confederate Monuments?

 

[blotter]

This is bullshyt, seems like you don't know why these confederate status and monuments were built in the first place, educate yourself about history, you sound like one of them confederate loving white supremacists, these status has nothing to do with remembering history or celebrating heritage.

"But what about the importance of historical memory? Even that argument may be somewhat spurious, as the SPLC report demonstrates. Many of the treasured monuments that seem to offer a connection to the post-bellum South are actually much later, anachronistic constructions, and they tend to correlate closely with periods of fraught racial relations, as my colleague Yoni Appelbaum has noted. South Carolina didn’t hoist the battle flag in Columbia until 1961—the anniversary of the war’s start, but also the middle of the civil-rights push, and a time when many white Southerners were on the defensive about issues like segregation and voting rights.

A timeline of the genesis of the Confederate sites shows two notable spikes. One comes around the turn of the 20th century, just after Plessy v. Ferguson, and just as many Southern states were establishing repressive race laws. The second runs from the mid-1950s to the mid-1960s—the peak of the civil-rights movement. In other words, the erection of Confederate monuments has been a way to perform cultural resistance to black equality."

Source: Why Are There Still So Many Confederate Monuments?

word

New Orleans' mayor did a pretty good job of laying it out too

 

[88m3]

@Serious @the next guy also @BmoreGorilla

 

[newworldafro]

This is bullshyt, seems like you don't know why these confederate status and monuments were built in the first place, educate yourself about history, you sound like one of them confederate loving white supremacists, these status has nothing to do with remembering history or celebrating heritage.

"But what about the importance of historical memory? Even that argument may be somewhat spurious, as the SPLC report demonstrates. Many of the treasured monuments that seem to offer a connection to the post-bellum South are actually much later, anachronistic constructions, and they tend to correlate closely with periods of fraught racial relations, as my colleague Yoni Appelbaum has noted. South Carolina didn’t hoist the battle flag in Columbia until 1961—the anniversary of the war’s start, but also the middle of the civil-rights push, and a time when many white Southerners were on the defensive about issues like segregation and voting rights.

A timeline of the genesis of the Confederate sites shows two notable spikes. One comes around the turn of the 20th century, just after Plessy v. Ferguson, and just as many Southern states were establishing repressive race laws. The second runs from the mid-1950s to the mid-1960s—the peak of the civil-rights movement. In other words, the erection of Confederate monuments has been a way to perform cultural resistance to black equality."

Source: Why Are There Still So Many Confederate Monuments?

I respect all that.

word

New Orleans' mayor did a pretty good job of laying it out too

Good powerful video...and I respect his clarity of message. It has been a multi-decade process and not just a trigger finger reaction....

My point is still....are they going to remove a Sam Houston statue cause he owned slaves.....and will they continue down this path of everything with a slave owners name on it or influence has to be removed.......like the Bill of Rights.

If you ever hear somebody using that logic.......your ears should perk up...

There is currently a black mayor in Houston and the convention center is named after a former black mayor, with 100s of millions of reinvestment happening there. They are building an Emancipation Park in historic Third Ward, in commemoration of Juneteenth. Texas Southern University is still expanding and has historical buildings. I love black history......I love history in general....expand and make new history...but I acknowledge I didn't know all the details of New Orleans...

 

[rantanamo]

Armed protesters carrying Confederate flags



Sam Houston is viewed a Texas hero after he refused to swear allegiance to the Confederacy

 

[the next guy]

@Serious @the next guy also @BmoreGorilla

This is more freedom and integrity from the lower taxes people. They think this is a states right

Live down south brehs!

 

[2stainz]

Armed protesters carrying Confederate flags



Sam Houston is viewed a Texas hero after he refused to swear allegiance to the Confederacy

the mind fukkery of it all.. white outrage really has no direction. They actually want to say "fukk brown people" but they are having a hard time saying it without sounding racist

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Armed protesters carrying Confederate flags



Sam Houston is viewed a Texas hero after he refused to swear allegiance to the Confederacy

The shyt made me double take as well

These people need HELP dog. Serious mental evaluation.

 

[TTT]

Armed protesters carrying Confederate flags



Sam Houston is viewed a Texas hero after he refused to swear allegiance to the Confederacy

It's like those confederate flag waving people in northern union states and even Canada as well. It only shows what the flag really represents to them as opposed to their PC states rights ,

 

[Fillerguy]

I respect all that.



Good powerful video...and I respect his clarity of message. It has been a multi-decade process and not just a trigger finger reaction....

My point is still....are they going to remove a Sam Houston statue cause he owned slaves.....and will they continue down this path of everything with a slave owners name on it or influence has to be removed.......like the Bill of Rights.

If you ever hear somebody using that logic.......your ears should perk up...

There is currently a black mayor in Houston and the convention center is named after a former black mayor, with 100s of millions of reinvestment happening there. They are building an Emancipation Park in historic Third Ward, in commemoration of Juneteenth. Texas Southern University is still expanding and has historical buildings. I love black history......I love history in general....expand and make new history...but I acknowledge I didn't know all the details of New Orleans...

When being contrarian goes wrong. You lost this fight breh, take the L and bow out.

 

[newworldafro]

When being contrarian goes wrong. You lost this fight breh, take the L and bow out.

Why yall think I'm being disagreeable just for the hell of it....I'm a clear thinking individual. I have no problem saying I'm in the wrong, and with New Orleans situation I wasn't aware of this being a multi-decade process of analyzing the monuments. Fair enough. I'll take that L.

I still say....be careful being so trigger happy about removing monuments....because it becomes this snowball effect......like what's happening in Houston.....they going change the name of Houston too?? I mean it's a slave owning name.....folks are surrounded by the legacy of a slave owner so let's change the name to Bayou City, TX.........that's all I'm saying.

The state of Texas education committee that changed textbooks to say slaves were interns or whatever fukkboi title they changed it to are just as bad for historical malfeasance.

I'm not bowing out.

Can't believe I'm quoting Napoleon, but he said it right...I'm nuanced......